huh?

[Bruiser]

I'm applying for a fancy government job and need to explain why I left one job... how does one say "I got fired for bullshit reasons provable in documentation and was happily unemployed for a summer" in a good way?

I'm so sick of looking for a job...

[weknowhowtolive]

"i got fired"

[Bruiser]

"i got fired"

I hate you... just right now, otherwise not really.

[Dutch Raven]

http://www.youtube.com/v/oSb1Orv_shE

[HEADKICK HERO]

its probably best to be short and sweet leaving alot to the imagination, that way if you make it to the interveiw you will have a chance to personally clarify things before they make a false judgement. example.

reason for leaving? discharged through no fault of my own.

[Loathe]

Took time off to reappraise your career?

[Martina]

"I left prematurely"

[Bruiser]

its probably best to be short and sweet leaving alot to the imagination, that way if you make it to the interveiw you will have a chance to personally clarify things before they make a false judgement. example.

reason for leaving? discharged through no fault of my own.

Excellent! Thank you.

Took time off to reappraise your career?

No one would believe that because of what it was... I have yet to figure out how I was hired there anyway.

[SkinnyBird]

Illness in the family? Caring for a sick relative is hard to disprove.

[Bruiser]

Illness in the family? Caring for a sick relative is hard to disprove.

Nah, I had to go to court for it. So, there's legal documents saying they're fuckers

[Martina]

Nah, I had to go to court for it. So, there's legal documents saying they're fuckers

Do you live in a work at will state?

[Saint]

Re-evaluating your carrer track is a good one. Started my own buisiness is one that I have used to cover for my, um, unwilling seperations of employment. I usually say roofing or contracting and that more well established firms were out bidding me.

The only thing that sucks about that is you get asked to do alot of side jobs or "do you think that you could take a look at...."

[Bruiser]

Do you live in a work at will state?

Hee heee... at the time yes, but those people were idiots and said one thing when I was fired and another on paper, when they should have said nothing.

I hated it anyway. It was right after I got laid off and took a job just to get out of the house. It was awful and I have yet to figure out why I worked there or even applied.

[King of all Buffets]

I'm applying for a fancy government job and need to explain why I left one job... how does one say "I got fired for bullshit reasons provable in documentation and was happily unemployed for a summer" in a good way?

I'm so sick of looking for a job...

Say you were laid off and leave it at that....Employers hate long winded excuses and don't like listening to people bash there former employers.

[weknowhowtolive]

I never even put reasons for leaving a job on a resume, i only tell if they ask and i usually just make up some long crap with big words and no one cares.

If you were fired for a bullshit reason, say you were fired for a bullshit reason. why try and make it look good and then a month later they question it and you explain it was bullshit? Just tell them up front you were fired but it was bullshit and you can prove it.

[Skones]

Illness in the family? Caring for a sick relative is hard to disprove.

She said she was fired, smart one. Learn to comprehend.

As for the question, I'd leave the fact that there was a court case out of it. Conveniently forget to mention it. Employers don't like to think about employees or potential employees bringing legal action against them. That said, if they specifically ask about it, tell them, but I wouldn't willfully volunteer such information.

[dexy]

since you already stated you were fired, just put that your employment was terminated due to personality differences you and your employer experienced during your time of employment.

Anytime I had to fire someone and they did not deserve it I told them to use that for future jobs. For all they know you were being yelled at, etc and you didn't like it blah blah.

[Bruiser]

I went with the nice and simple "I was laid off"

I hate when they ask why you left an employer... really I'm just sick of filling out applications... and lame ass misleading interviews...

[Argyleskin]

What's the job?

And remember I can see if the comic book shop I go to needs more help. They sometimes need part timers! Pike is seriously a decent place to find work..unfortunately it's a hell of a drive for you.

[Bruiser]

What's the job?

And remember I can see if the comic book shop I go to needs more help. They sometimes need part timers! Pike is seriously a decent place to find work..unfortunately it's a hell of a drive for you.

It's only 45 minutes away... I'll just sleep on your couch!
If it was closer I would be all about it, I do like the comics after all.

It's the parole job, but I think I need a Bachelors, which I am slowly working on...

[socalsk1nhead]

Man. I want a new job. And a new state. I want some change of scenery.

[Bruiser]

Man. I want a new job. And a new state. I want some change of scenery.

I hear Washington around the Seattle/Tacoma area is nice...

[socalsk1nhead]

I hear Washington around the Seattle/Tacoma area is nice...

You know who you have to convince. You get her to go and I'll be there.

[Loathe]

I want to move and find a job too.

Lucky bastards.

[socalsk1nhead]

I want to move and find a job too.

Lucky bastards.

Same here. I want a change of pace. However we just fiished this piece of machinery today and showed it to the customer.

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/4301/ovencp2.jpg



That's after it cooled a little to about 1400-1500 degrees. It normally burns at 2100 and white hot. The bottom part of the door at that position is about 6 feet off the ground for reference.

[Skones]

Same here. I want a change of pace. However we just fiished this piece of machinery today and showed it to the customer.

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/4301/ovencp2.jpg



That's after it cooled a little to about 1400-1500 degrees. It normally burns at 2100 and white hot. The bottom part of the door at that position is about 6 feet off the ground for reference.

Was the customer by any chance a German?

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

[socalsk1nhead]

Was the customer by any chance a German?

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

Dante Alighieri just opened up another circle of hell reserved just for you.

[Skones]

Dante Alighieri just opened up another circle of hell reserved just for you.

Shit, I've got a condo downtown waiting for me.

[Bruiser]

You know who you have to convince. You get her to go and I'll be there.

OH CASPER!!! Come visit me and Sabby! Hoon will be here with the baby soon!

How was that? Too subtle?

I want to move and find a job too.

Lucky bastards.

Say it with me... military post... how's that coming along anyway?

[Loathe]

OH CASPER!!! Come visit me and Sabby! Hoon will be here with the baby soon!

How was that? Too subtle?



Say it with me... military post... how's that coming along anyway?

25 June the peoples republic of Maryland will be deciding my fate.

[Bruiser]

25 June the peoples republic of Maryland will be deciding my fate.

Oh dayum... Best of luck to you hon!!! I really do hope they go in your favor. Not enough good men and blah blah blah...

[Tokyohoon]

Say you were laid off and leave it at that....Employers hate long winded excuses and don't like listening to people bash there former employers.

Speaking as someone who's been in a hiring postion many a time, Shaun has that bang on. Put down that you were laid off if you absolutely HAVE to put down soemthing.

I never even put reasons for leaving a job on a resume

More good advice.

If you were fired for a bullshit reason, say you were fired for a bullshit reason. why try and make it look good and then a month later they question it and you explain it was bullshit? Just tell them up front you were fired but it was bullshit and you can prove it.

Another point - do NOT mention that you took a former employer to court if you can avoid it being brought up. It makes new employers nervous. My own boss knows that my first stop after I resign or get dismissed here is the labor relations office to file the claim for all my unpaid overtime. But he didn't know that until I was off probation.


As for the question, I'd leave the fact that there was a court case out of it. Conveniently forget to mention it. Employers don't like to think about employees or potential employees bringing legal action against them. That said, if they specifically ask about it, tell them, but I wouldn't willfully volunteer such information.

See, Skones and I agree.


That being said, don't lie either. Being "laid off" is a stretch, but I wouldn't consider it an out and out lie. If you're questioned directly, be honest, but not vindictive.

[Loathe]

Oh dayum... Best of luck to you hon!!! I really do hope they go in your favor. Not enough good men and blah blah blah...

You and me both.

Something a bit weird about the terms of my probation.

I was allowed interstate and international travel, and permitted to keep my passport, because of the civilian work I do.

If they decide against me I can take a job overseas, but I cannot go in the army to go overseas, weird.

[grouchybastid]

Man. I want a new job. And a new state. I want some change of scenery.

Me, three. I've got wicked NYC burnout.

[WhiteTrashSkinhead]

me 4! you best hookup that job grouchy!

[socalsk1nhead]

Me, three. I've got wicked NYC burnout.

Dude. Is it a possibility of you moving?

[bat_girl]

And me dreaming of moving TO the Big Apple! :)

[grouchybastid]

Dude. Is it a possibility of you moving?

There are no real plans at this point, but strong consideration. I keep adding up the reasons to stay vs. the reasons to split, and I keep coming up on the side of Get Outta Dodge.


Bat_girl, I'd never dissuade anybody from coming here...NYC is still the greatest city in the world!

[socalsk1nhead]

There are no real plans at this point, but strong consideration. I keep adding up the reasons to stay vs. the reasons to split, and I keep coming up on the side of Get Outta Dodge.


Bat_girl, I'd never dissuade anybody from coming here...NYC is still the greatest city in the world!

C is still talking about going to Boston or maybe Michigan...

[grouchybastid]

C is still talking about going to Boston or maybe Michigan...

I have never really liked Boston, and that's not just because of my baseball affiliation. :smile: She's got ties there, right?

I hear Seattle is nice....

[caspar]

I have never really liked Boston, and that's not just because of my baseball affiliation. :smile: She's got ties there, right?

I hear Seattle is nice....I had ties there. My best friend is moving back out here though. Sometime. Eventually.

Boston > NYC because their turnstiles don't hate me. :tongue: Then again, I do have family in Brooklyn... Including my favorite cousin.

Your lack of a DL pretty much means you can't leave the east coast.

P.S. Your baseball affiliation is the best kind evar.

Joel, how do you feel about upstate NY? Buffalo, specifically.

[socalsk1nhead]

I had ties there. My best friend is moving back out here though. Sometime. Eventually.

Boston > NYC because their turnstiles don't hate me. :tongue: Then again, I do have family in Brooklyn... Including my favorite cousin.

Your lack of a DL pretty much means you can't leave the east coast.

P.S. Your baseball affiliation is the best kind evar.

Joel, how do you feel about upstate NY? Buffalo, specifically.

I'd rather live closer to the city. I love me some metro areas. I'd be down for Seattle if they have a good transit system.

[grouchybastid]

Boston > NYC because their turnstiles don't hate me. :tongue: Then again, I do have family in Brooklyn... Including my favorite cousin.

pfft. NYC > Boston because it's fucking NYC!


Your lack of a DL pretty much means you can't leave the east coast.

Not exactly an insurmountable issue, just have to get my lazy ass to take (and pass) a road test.


Joel, how do you feel about upstate NY? Buffalo, specifically.

Buffalo is so far west it's a whole different world from NYC, or the upstate counties nearby. Fuck Buffalo.

[Skones]

Fuck Buffalo.

Whoa now!

A friend of mine used to wok at Anchor Bar in Buffalo. a.k.a. The Home of the Buffalo Wing.

Any town that produced something as glorious as the buffalo wing is good in my book!

[DANNYTWOTIMES]

You and me both.

Something a bit weird about the terms of my probation.

I was allowed interstate and international travel, and permitted to keep my passport, because of the civilian work I do.

If they decide against me I can take a job overseas, but I cannot go in the army to go overseas, weird.

Ha, and if you work overseas (civilian) you make more in a month than I do in a year! (ok exaggeration, but still ain't enough to convince me to want to live and work over here under my own recognizance)

[BoobsNBoots]

I have never really liked Boston, and that's not just because of my baseball affiliation. :smile: She's got ties there, right?

I hear Seattle is nice....
Well I say f NYC and ONLY because of my baseball affiliation.

:tongue:

[caspar]

pfft. NYC > Boston because it's fucking NYC!

Not exactly an insurmountable issue, just have to get my lazy ass to take (and pass) a road test.

Buffalo is so far west it's a whole different world from NYC, or the upstate counties nearby. Fuck Buffalo.
HEY! My dad's side of the family is (and is from) there, bucko! Why do you think I want to go back?

But I like NYC. For the most part.

[Loathe]

Ha, and if you work overseas (civilian) you make more in a month than I do in a year! (ok exaggeration, but still ain't enough to convince me to want to live and work over here under my own recognizance)

18K a month if I go over as a programmer, and this is total pog never leave the fob shit. Only 10K (haha only) if I go over doing security work, and potentially get blown up. Crazy huh?

I must be sick in the head, but I'd rather be in green making my 35K a year.

[Loathe]

Well I say f NYC and ONLY because of my baseball affiliation.

:tongue:

You wouldn't even have a baseball affiliation without NYC biotch

[Bruiser]

WHOO!!! I got a new job, I'm an ultimate porn hustla now.. seeing as I now work for Hustler... Bwahahahahaha... whhooo more porn and misc. doo-dads.

[LostinKS]

18K a month if I go over as a programmer, and this is total pog never leave the fob shit. Only 10K (haha only) if I go over doing security work, and potentially get blown up. Crazy huh?

I must be sick in the head, but I'd rather be in green making my 35K a year.

only makin 35k? humb...now on one hand, that could be a pay raise. or a WTF where's my money????

[Loathe]

only makin 35k? humb...now on one hand, that could be a pay raise. or a WTF where's my money????

As an E-4 with a few years, plus jump pay, danger pay and so forth you aren't really doing to bad. Don't forget BAQ.

I think we figured out I made about 60,000 my year in Afghanistan.

[shawn P]

As an E-4 with a few years, plus jump pay, danger pay and so forth you aren't really doing to bad. Don't forget BAQ.

I think we figured out I made about 60,000 my year in Afghanistan.
I knew I should have got a mail order bride before I went downrange.

[Loathe]

I knew I should have got a mail order bride before I went downrange.

Hell I know a guy who got married to some random girl and split the money.