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Acari Rotter

10-09-2006, 12:19 AM

Skones

10-09-2006, 12:53 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061009/ap_on_re_as/koreas_nuclear

Tokyohoon

10-09-2006, 01:07 AM

Fucking lovely.

So, when do we rain down shock and awe, 'cause we know he's got the WMD's now.... time for Mr. Kim to die.

Skones

10-09-2006, 01:27 AM

Sounds a lot like they're bluffing more...

Underground test? Without anyone besides their state-run media there to witness it?

Acari Rotter

10-09-2006, 01:42 AM

Sounds a lot like they're bluffing more...

Underground test? Without anyone besides their state-run media there to witness it?

So far that's what the South Koreans I've spoken to think.

militarymite

10-09-2006, 02:36 AM

So North Korea just tested their nuclear weapon. So far no hair falling out.

I fucking need a beer right now, even though it's noon.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/K/KOREAS_NUCLEAR?SITE=PASUN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

EDIT: Beer #1 finished. I might try to sneak another one in a little.
Duck and cover. And that's not Peking Duck. It will probably take George Bush until next Wednesday to react to this crisis. The USGS (United States Geological Survey) says it produced a 4.2 magnitude quake located 45 miles north of Kimchaek, N. Korea at a depth of 9.3 miles below surface.

Acari Rotter

10-09-2006, 02:46 AM

It's going to take a reaction by somebody to turn this into a crisis.

Bound Fo' Glory

10-09-2006, 02:53 AM

What is a North Korean Nuke made out of? Putting a smoke detector in an old microwave?

eddie shots

10-09-2006, 04:55 AM

mutual assured destruction. as sad as it may be this may be the only solution.

ienjoybeer

10-09-2006, 08:50 AM

As long as Russia and China aren't taking their sides, and NK isn't planning on pointing anything at SK or Japan...I couldn't give a fuck. I know they can't get us....unless those fuckers have REALLY got something up their sleeves.

Tokyohoon

10-09-2006, 09:35 AM

TheY're pointing those somethings at SK and Japan already, and their latest missile can theoretically hit anything west of the Mississippi.

Acari Rotter

10-09-2006, 09:54 AM

People over here aren't scared.

Gut Check

10-09-2006, 11:31 AM

Hopefully the U.N. makes an example out of North Korea, for the leaders of Iran to watch.

Dawgnuts

10-09-2006, 12:54 PM

Hopefully the U.N. makes an example out of North Korea, for the leaders of Iran to watch.

Yea, and cows fly.

UN make an example out of somebody? Hah, they only try to do that with america.

ienjoybeer

10-09-2006, 02:16 PM

TheY're pointing those somethings at SK and Japan already, and their latest missile can theoretically hit anything west of the Mississippi.

Those idiots haven't got a nuke small enough to strap to a missile...unless they somehow got ahold of some pretty serious technology. Small tactical nukes are hard to make...especially for a fledgling nuclear power.
The missile can hit a bunch of shit...but, It's not going to detonate anything nuclear. The one they tested is doubtedly anything new and improved. I'm sure it's old-school as fuck. Their country is an archaic mess, and it's leader looks like something out of a 50's military instructional video.

:edit: This is less about how dangerous NK now is, and a lot more of a bitch fight about who gets to be a nuclear power and who doesn't. NK felt left out, because they didn't get invited to the party...so they made a party of their own. It's a lot politics, a little threatening.

Cuchulainn

10-09-2006, 04:25 PM

It's a lot politics, a little threatening.
I agree with the threatening part. A dollar says that Kimmy starts demanding economic aid to prop up his failed country now that he has nukes.

Nations like that are like muggers. They point a weapon at you and demand money. If you give in once, they will expect you to give in again. We can't let that happen.

Skones

10-09-2006, 04:56 PM

Those idiots haven't got a nuke small enough to strap to a missile...

They don't need to strap it to a missile...

Do you realize just how many major US cities have ports attached to them? San Francisco, LA, San Diego, Seattle, New Orleans, Fort Lauderdale, Baltimore, New York City, and Boston to name a few.

That's just one of the many ways to deliver a nuke...

St.PeteJim

10-09-2006, 08:30 PM

Hopefully the U.N. makes an example out of North Korea, for the leaders of Iran to watch.

Don't worry, paper work will rain down upon North Korea like no tomorrow by the UN.

Tokyohoon

10-09-2006, 10:53 PM

Skones

10-09-2006, 11:04 PM

I really try not to think of that one, me spending my days a stone's throw from Ooi port in Tokyo...

The North Koreans hate Japan a lot more than they hate the USA.

Yeah, I'm not too fond of the idea either, but, if I were gonna do it, it's probably what I'd do...

I'm sure they wouldn't pass up the chance to hit both of our countries...

Acari Rotter

10-10-2006, 12:45 AM

Judging by this article, North Korea still doesn't have much. Never heard the term "sub-kilotonne" before.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20554779-1702,00.html

Cuchulainn

10-10-2006, 12:48 AM

What's the deal with Kim Jong Il any way? I know that no dictator wants to give up power, but at least Gorbachev had the sense to throw in the towel when his country was on the verge of collapse, and ask for help. Kimmy just keeps digging the hole deeper and deeper. How much longer can North Korea go on like it has?

Acari Rotter

10-10-2006, 01:17 AM

Kim Jongil is like the pope. He holds power by convincing his people that he's infallible. He can't admit he made a mistake because that negates his claims to be godlike.

militarymite

10-10-2006, 01:36 AM

Kim Jongil is like the pope. He holds power by convincing his people that he's infallible. He can't admit he made a mistake because that negates his claims to be godlike.
Yeah, we have a dear leader like that too in our country.

Tokyohoon

10-10-2006, 02:43 AM

Judging by this article, North Korea still doesn't have much. Never heard the term "sub-kilotonne" before.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20554779-1702,00.html

So they're saying, in effect, that KJI might have loaded a few shipping containers up with high ammonia fertilzer and diesel fuel, then blew 'em up in a cave?

Skones

10-10-2006, 02:55 AM

Never heard the term "sub-kilotonne" before.

Meet the M-388 "Davy Crockett":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_%28nuclear_device)

And yes, that freakish thing was fielded by the US Army for 10 years in Western Europe...

Acari Rotter

10-10-2006, 03:04 AM

Meet the M-388 "Davy Crockett":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_%28nuclear_device)

And yes, that freakish thing was fielded by the US Army for 10 years in Western Europe...

Tactical nuclear weapons are a completely different thing. They were trying to power down a nuclear device. North Korea is trying to make the strongest possible bomb.

Skones

10-10-2006, 03:07 AM

Tactical nuclear weapons are a completely different thing. They were trying to power down a nuclear device. North Korea is trying to make the strongest possible bomb.

I never said N.K. wasn't...

You said you had never heard of a sub-kiloton nuke...

...Now you have...

Another example of a sub-kiloton bomb would be a suitcase nuke. Bigger isn't always better...

Acari Rotter

10-10-2006, 03:17 AM

I never said N.K. wasn't...

You said you had never heard of a sub-kiloton nuke...

...Now you have...

Another example of a sub-kiloton bomb would be a suitcase nuke. Bigger isn't always better...

Point taken. I was just poking fun at the North's weak-assed bombs.

ienjoybeer

10-10-2006, 02:42 PM

They don't need to strap it to a missile...

Do you realize just how many major US cities have ports attached to them? San Francisco, LA, San Diego, Seattle, New Orleans, Fort Lauderdale, Baltimore, New York City, and Boston to name a few.

That's just one of the many ways to deliver a nuke...

Come on! North Korea got their technology from China, and China's so fucking pissed off at North Korea right now that they'll rip those nukes right out of their country before they ship that garbage anywhere! North Korea isn't some evil-masterminded axis of evil hell bent on the destruction of earth. It's some po-dunk asian country...who is China's bitch... with some mildly retarded leader, that has been coveting nuclear power for 6 decades, and...voila...I hope they are happy... They are most likely completely un-interested in doing anything with those weapons but brandishing them in the face of all of the other nuclear powers. It's what I like to call.... "nanny nanny boo boo pseudo cold war foriegn policy"... Or N3BBPCWFP for short...hehe. It's a bunch of hyped up crap, and I hope the media stops trying to turn it into some doomesday front page story.
The day they explode a bomb in a shipping container, so help me god...I'll join the military just to put a bullet in those cocksuckers.

The only possible scenario which would cause some trouble, is if Kimmypoo sold the nukes to islamic terrorists....and I know he's comfy with Iran...but, Iran is also China's bitch...so there's nothing immediate going to happen there.

weknowhowtolive

10-10-2006, 03:18 PM

I heard China is threatening going to the UN with full sanctions on NK. I think NK just made a huge...huge mistake, bluff or not.

Skones

10-10-2006, 04:03 PM

The only possible scenario which would cause some trouble, is if Kimmypoo sold the nukes to islamic terrorists....and I know he's comfy with Iran...but, Iran is also China's bitch...so there's nothing immediate going to happen there.

Then there's the Iraqi insurgency, asian islamic radicals, african warlords, domestic terrorists a la Tim McVeigh, that sort of thing.

North Korea is hard strapped for cash, and the sale of some small tactical nukes to the highest bidder would keep Kimmys country going for a few more years...

LastRites

10-11-2006, 03:00 AM

North Korea is hard strapped for cash, and the sale of some small tactical nukes to the highest bidder would keep Kimmys country going for a few more years...
Being strapped for cash can mean two things in this scenario....
- easy to take over and military has its limits
- people are way too eager to win and become more aggressive/reckless

One way or another...there is no positive solution simply because they are communists.
No civlized deal can be reached with such people.

ienjoybeer

10-12-2006, 03:32 PM

Then there's the Iraqi insurgency, asian islamic radicals, african warlords, domestic terrorists a la Tim McVeigh, that sort of thing.

North Korea is hard strapped for cash, and the sale of some small tactical nukes to the highest bidder would keep Kimmys country going for a few more years...

I doubt it. While I know there is a trade for nuclear weapons and radioactive materials...North Korea isn't the "terrorist evil axis" that it's been made out to be. It's a stupid little country that got itself into a big bunch of shit by trying to run with the big dogs. There's one in every bunch...and often more than that. It's small, circus reject leader is not "crazy"...he just looks like it. He knows the best way to be bombed off of the face of the earth is to start handing those things out like flyers.
A small tactical nuke would go for a couple million ($10-12) on the market. North Korea would need a lot more than that to keep their country running smoothly. On top of that...they don't have small tactical nukes. More likely than not, they've got big, bulky archaic nukes...like the kind you can't strap on a missile, but must drop from a plane instead (a la fatboy and little man). They were bluffing with those missiles. They are a fledgling nuclear power and I'm almost positive they don't have the capabilities to produce small nukes (It took us forever to do it). Yeah...I guess they could blow it up in a shipping container or transport it via ocean vessel... But, I think they are a little pre-occupied with getting food to eat, now that SK and China have started placing sanctions on their food aid. Yowch.

Skones

10-12-2006, 03:48 PM

I doubt it. While I know there is a trade for nuclear weapons and radioactive materials...North Korea isn't the "terrorist evil axis" that it's been made out to be. It's a stupid little country that got itself into a big bunch of shit by trying to run with the big dogs. There's one in every bunch...and often more than that. It's small, circus reject leader is not "crazy"...he just looks like it. He knows the best way to be bombed off of the face of the earth is to start handing those things out like flyers.
A small tactical nuke would go for a couple million ($10-12) on the market. North Korea would need a lot more than that to keep their country running smoothly. On top of that...they don't have small tactical nukes. More likely than not, they've got big, bulky archaic nukes...like the kind you can't strap on a missile, but must drop from a plane instead (a la fatboy and little man). They were bluffing with those missiles. They are a fledgling nuclear power and I'm almost positive they don't have the capabilities to produce small nukes (It took us forever to do it). Yeah...I guess they could blow it up in a shipping container or transport it via ocean vessel... But, I think they are a little pre-occupied with getting food to eat, now that SK and China have started placing sanctions on their food aid. Yowch.

Ever hear of a dirty bomb? Not exactly nuclear, but great for taking a bit of enriched uranium, strapping it to a bomb and dropping it in say a NYC subway trashcan. Kills a lot of people and radiates the place for years.

Just cause they don't have small tactical ones doesn't mean they can't do damage...

DukeCityDrunk

10-12-2006, 04:00 PM

I really try not to think of that one, me spending my days a stone's throw from Ooi port in Tokyo...

The North Koreans hate Japan a lot more than they hate the USA.

dude, its Ooi! port. dont forget the ! ... remember oi! points.

PUNISHER

10-12-2006, 04:05 PM

So they're saying, in effect, that KJI might have loaded a few shipping containers up with high ammonia fertilzer and diesel fuel, then blew 'em up in a cave?
Does all of this shit worry you more than most considering that you live in Tokyo? What is the general attitude of the people over there?

shawn P

10-15-2006, 05:53 PM

Yeah, we have a dear leader like that too in our country.
You're becoming more like craig everytime you post. Your comparison between a dictator who gained power thru his father, and Bush who was ELECTED twice is half ass at best.

Acari Rotter

10-15-2006, 10:06 PM

You're becoming more like craig everytime you post. Your comparison between a dictator who gained power thru his father, and Bush who was ELECTED twice is half ass at best.

I'm not sure if you were trying to be ironic here, or just using half your ass.

Tokyohoon

10-15-2006, 11:35 PM

For anyone interested, radiation levels have been detected - it was a nuke blast for sure.

The UN Security council voted UNANIMOUSLY on sanctions for the DPRK.

North Korea has just been cast off by the Chinese.

Kimbo no longer has a pocket to hold on to.

I think he's about to get a world class violating.

Skones

10-15-2006, 11:40 PM

The UN Security council voted UNANIMOUSLY on sanctions for the DPRK.

North Korea has just been cast off by the Chinese.

So that's either going to be Kimmy admitting that he fucked up, or one last ditch effort across the 38th.

Yay...

Acari Rotter

10-15-2006, 11:45 PM

I think the most important thing to come out of this is how it affects North Korea's relationship with China.

Tokyohoon

10-16-2006, 12:10 AM

So far, looks like the Chinese are ready to let him twist in the wind this time.

We'll see....

If it starts to heat up, come spend a week in Tokyo, my sofa's open.

Acari Rotter

10-16-2006, 01:00 AM

If it starts to heat up, come over to Seoul. I have a spare room for you.

Tokyohoon

10-16-2006, 01:53 AM

Yell ya what, let's take our wives (and my kid) and go for an extended vacation in Palau. Nobody wants to bomb the Palawis.

Cuchulainn

10-16-2006, 11:09 AM

Yell ya what, let's take our wives (and my kid) and go for an extended vacation in Palau. Nobody wants to bomb the Palawis.
Not unless Kimmy starts to envy their peerless snorkeling opportunities.

http://www.destmic.com/palau.html

ienjoybeer

10-18-2006, 04:27 PM

Ever hear of a dirty bomb? Not exactly nuclear, but great for taking a bit of enriched uranium, strapping it to a bomb and dropping it in say a NYC subway trashcan. Kills a lot of people and radiates the place for years.

Just cause they don't have small tactical ones doesn't mean they can't do damage...

This is true...but, I don't think they would do that. I'd be more worried about muhammehds doing that. And, something tells me too, that Pakistan would get to the guys looking for nuclear material before NK does. Like I said...I doubt their intention is to do anything other than assert some sort of confidence and brandish their new weapons. That's why I think this whole thing has a lot more to do with media hype than it does a real threat (for us, SK, or Japan).
They really have little interest in attacking us. Just cause our president called their president a bad name....doesn't mean they'll be strapping up dirty bombs for the transit anytime soon.
I do see your point, though...and it is a possibility.

Hippiehater

10-19-2006, 01:23 AM

Being that they are an increadibly isolationist country, with a president that some seem to think, more then any other dictator in the world, is quite possibly truelly nuts..not just acting....somethings about him, like his movie collection and claims to be a film director, his marital status, seem really weird....I dont know that the normal diplomatic/rational diplomatic relations, governmental structure (at least Iran has a devision of powers) considerations can be counted on to dictate what happans.

Im curies, as too what the general opinion in South Korea and Japan on Kim is?

Skones

10-19-2006, 01:41 AM

This is true...but, I don't think they would do that. I'd be more worried about muhammehds doing that. And, something tells me too, that Pakistan would get to the guys looking for nuclear material before NK does.

Which is why I'm saying that their main interest would be to develop a product that they could sell to Hajji's.

The vast majority of the Arab world hates Pakistan. It's hard to believe that any Arab extremists would consider helping out Pakistan's government by purchasing nuclear material from them. And it's not a matter of competition by Pakistan selling it at a lower price than NK, their hatred runs deeper than any financial descision would go...