Enough

[Hostilesouthern]

I ended up watching about an hour long interview with Juan Willaims, a "left wing" pundit. He just wrote, "Enough".

I say "left wing" due to the fact he is definitely left of center while having a total lack of the victim syndrome that plagues those people.

Before I write a type out my thoughts, has anyone read it?



EDIT, THANK YOU MARC, you magnificent bastard!!!!

[Tokyohoon]

Has anyone read what, precisely?

(And yer welcome - you're in yer element now)

[Hostilesouthern]

Has anyone read what, precisely?

(And yer welcome - you're in yer element now)



I fixed it, pardon. Got all excited about being in the proper forum.

Long title

Enough: The Phony Leaders, Dead-End Movements, and Culture of Failure That Are Undermining Black America--and What We Can Do About It

[Tokyohoon]

I fixed it, pardon. Got all excited about being in the proper forum.

Long title

Enough: The Phony Leaders, Dead-End Movements, and Culture of Failure That Are Undermining Black America--and What We Can Do About It


Read a little about it, sounds interesting, and my reading stack is getting short. It's in the pipeline, should be here in a couple weeks.

[Hostilesouthern]

Read a little about it, sounds interesting, and my reading stack is getting short. It's in the pipeline, should be here in a couple weeks.


What are you reading right now? I have been ultra busy so my list is SHORT.

Law, Legislation and Liberty, Volume 3: The Political Order of a Free People- F.A. Hayek

Where the Right Went Wrong: How Neoconservatives Subverted the Reagan Revolution and Hijacked the Bush Presidency- Pat Buchnan.

I just picked up the Buchanan book, have not even had a chance to crack it open yet.

[Tokyohoon]

Rule by Secrecy (sadly turning out to be a mix of good research and conspiracy wackjob) and the Jesus Mysteries (I have a suspicion it's going the same direction).

The Discovery of Heaven is up next on the chopping block, along with The End of Faith. Political Thought from Plato to NATO is the last one in the stack....

I got caught up in a bunch of religious bickering on another board and had a brief shift towards heretical writings.

So far it's either "my imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend", or "your friend is imaginary but I can't prove it as long as you're imagining him", or occasionally "you think you're imagining one thing, but you're not imagining it right".

[weknowhowtolive]

I stay away from anything that has to do with undermining X minority.

[Gut Check]

Wait a minute. Jaun William's is a FOX News panelist, he must be a Neo Con. Arrrgh my head is about to go all Scanners and shit.

[Loathe]

I fixed it, pardon. Got all excited about being in the proper forum.

Long title

Enough: The Phony Leaders, Dead-End Movements, and Culture of Failure That Are Undermining Black America--and What We Can Do About It

I've been hearing about it on NPR.

Is it worth reading?

[Bound Fo' Glory]

I've been hearing about it on NPR.
Communist.







Juan Williams may be a "Liberal" but he's always seemed sketch to me....I woulda slapped the shit outta half of the commentators on Fox News if I had to sit on one of those panels. Michael Eric Dyson and Cornell West are better anyway.

[oldcrow]

Rule by Secrecy (sadly turning out to be a mix of good research and conspiracy wackjob) and the Jesus Mysteries (I have a suspicion it's going the same direction).

The Discovery of Heaven is up next on the chopping block, along with The End of Faith. Political Thought from Plato to NATO is the last one in the stack....

I got caught up in a bunch of religious bickering on another board and had a brief shift towards heretical writings.

So far it's either "my imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend", or "your friend is imaginary but I can't prove it as long as you're imagining him", or occasionally "you think you're imagining one thing, but you're not imagining it right".
thats a damn good book Hoon...but then again, I am known to be an a.m. radio listenin to wing nut conspiracy theorist....

[Tokyohoon]

thats a damn good book Hoon...but then again, I am known to be an a.m. radio listenin to wing nut conspiracy theorist....

Hey, I'm gonna read it through to the end - they might tie some of this shit together ina rational way. DO you remember sections as being extremely disjointed?

[oldcrow]

Hey, I'm gonna read it through to the end - they might tie some of this shit together ina rational way. DO you remember sections as being extremely disjointed?
sure I do...but after readin some of Marrs's other shit, I'm startin to think that it's just the way the guy writes, he brings so much info. to the table that finding a way to bring it all together (especially considering the subject matter) is damn near impossible.....see bro, thats part of the PLAN......

[Gut Check]

Juan Williams may be a "Liberal" but he's always seemed sketch to me....I woulda slapped the shit outta half of the commentators on Fox News if I had to sit on one of those panels. Michael Eric Dyson and Cornell West are better anyway.
Charles Krauthammer would run you over in his wheelchair.

[Bound Fo' Glory]

Charles Krauthammer would run you over in his wheelchair.
Yeah, well FSU used to be a girl school...so there!:D

[Gut Check]

Yeah, well FSU used to be a girl school...so there!:D
Hahaha, true enough, but I did a little digging, and it seems that FSU was a co-ed school, before being made an all women's college by the state. And the school was home to the states only football program at the time, which moved to Gainsville when the school became gender exclusive. Those fucking Gay-tors, they ruin everything.

[Tokyohoon]

I fixed it, pardon. Got all excited about being in the proper forum.

Long title

Enough: The Phony Leaders, Dead-End Movements, and Culture of Failure That Are Undermining Black America--and What We Can Do About It

Well, took me a long time to get through it (work/family getting busy) but I'm through it.

I like most of what I read. The basic message - "yep, your ancestors were wronged and some folk try to keep you down. Get over it, and do what it takes to improve your lot in life."

The book stems very much from Bill Cosby's now (in)famous speech lambasting the black community for not taking advantage of the ooportunities afforded them at high cost by the people who fought the civil rights battles of the fifties and sixties, and he does spend a lot of the book defending Cosby's words.

Still, he does an excellent job of pointing out what the black community could and should be doing.

He does, in part, take a few potshots at evil ol' whitey (in this case, rich white record publishers), but for the most part his ammo is reserved for those members of the black community that he sees as destructive - black leaders who do nothing, rappers and hip hop artists that glorify "thug life" and refer to black women as bitches and whores, young men who walk out on their children and father more with other women - and the community at large for tolerating them.