anyone else running vista?

[Gentle Jones]

i've had it about a month

[steelcityskin]

not a chance. but i'm curious, how is it?

[Gentle Jones]

its a lot like osx, windows media player look like itunes and ie7 look like firefox

it needs lots of resources, but i have an alienware laptop which is diesel hardware

uses directx 10 which has no supported hardware currently, and it fucks with aeros a little. currently, my video card is nice but vista isn't using the hardware acceleration on it which fucks with my editting software, i'm finna reinstall xp, all nvidia gforce go cards have no drivers which will work with vista so its treated like a standard vga

using a beta version which the mpeg2 license has expired so dvds don't work at all

vista is faster overall and i do like the gadgets

they pitched it as a total move away from nt technology but i don't think that is the reality of the product i am seeing, its still DOS with a GUI

also the start button is gone its just a windows logo now

[Packratt]

Yeah, I've been running both the ultimate edition and the business flavor along with office 12 and some other new stuff.

It looks nice but it is quite the hog. There are some nice security improvements though.

[Gentle Jones]

imho it could have been another security pack not a whole new os

[steelcityskin]

i had a feeling it'd be another windows resource hog. i'm gonna try it out but only cause i have to. hate falling behind on new shit. i can't wait til linux is ready for the office desktop

[Gentle Jones]

pack i don't know what your experience has been but i think vista is still hella buggy and not ready for rollout

[Dutch Raven]

It's still VERY buggy and it's released? :confused:

[grouchybastid]

i had a feeling it'd be another windows resource hog. i'm gonna try it out but only cause i have to. hate falling behind on new shit. i can't wait til linux is ready for the office desktop

Now see, I'd say that it is, as long as you have sysadmins that know what they're doing and are willing to do the work necessary.

As far as Vista, one of my co-workers has been testing it recently. He's not impressed, but we're likely going to start the bigger testing process early next year to prepare the inevitable rollout. NOT looking forward to that...

[grouchybastid]

It's still VERY buggy and it's released? :confused:

It's a Microsoft product. The don't get it close to right until the 3rd iteration.

[Loathe]

I've been on the alpha and the beta for over a year and I have yet to have recieved a dvd that will just install on my ATI card.

I have to remove the card, intall the OS, add the card and then add the drivers. Piece of shit, like it's fucking windows 95 or some shit.

[steelcityskin]

Now see, I'd say that it is, as long as you have sysadmins that know what they're doing and are willing to do the work necessary.

As far as Vista, one of my co-workers has been testing it recently. He's not impressed, but we're likely going to start the bigger testing process early next year to prepare the inevitable rollout. NOT looking forward to that...

it is for basic office productivity. most applications i deal with are made to run under windows and probably will never be ported to linux unless there was a huge push on the desktop market. granted i'd love to see that day i can say microsoft you can keep your per server/per seat licenses i'll take something that i don't have to reboot cause i updated a driver:biggrin:

[Packratt]

imho it could have been another security pack not a whole new os

I would agree except that the kernel has been reworked to improve security in such a way that a mere service pack wouldn't work. Beyond that, however, I don't see enough feature set to justify any significant hoopla...

In fact, I'll probably be backreving soon for a number of reasons, among them are performance and compatibility issues.

[grouchybastid]

it is for basic office productivity. most applications i deal with are made to run under windows and probably will never be ported to linux unless there was a huge push on the desktop market. granted i'd love to see that day i can say microsoft you can keep your per server/per seat licenses i'll take something that i don't have to reboot cause i updated a driver:biggrin:

Absolutely. But that's what Citrix Metaframe was invented for. I've actually implemented this, it works like a fuckin DREAM. Linux desktops, and a Windows server or two in the racks serving those have-to-have-'em Windows apps over the network.

[Packratt]

It's still VERY buggy and it's released? :confused:

Not released yet, still in beta release candidate iterations.

[Loathe]

Absolutely. But that's what Citrix Metaframe was invented for. I've actually implemented this, it works like a fuckin DREAM. Linux desktops, and a Windows server or two in the racks serving those have-to-have-'em Windows apps over the network.

Shit, you don't even need the citrix route. There are multiple clients that will work directly with windows remote desktop from linux boxes, my entertainment box is set up this way.

[Loathe]

Not released yet, still in beta release candidate iterations.

It was released to corperate clients last week. It's gold, well the business version, the home version is still in dev.

[grouchybastid]

Shit, you don't even need the citrix route. There are multiple clients that will work directly with windows remote desktop from linux boxes, my entertainment box is set up this way.

This is true. Citrix will let you serve apps from a clustered farm tho, I don't know if you can do that natively from Windows servers.

[Loathe]

This is true. Citrix will let you serve apps from a clustered farm tho, I don't know if you can do that natively from Windows servers.

I like that citrix allows you to host applications in the center. I know we've written time tracking applications, requirements gathering applications, all kinds of shit that work through citrix, but it's still annoying to me. I mean, shit, it ould take a couple of days to replicate this shit in .Net or a web app.

Citrix is just to bulky for me to really like. Plus it's encryption and data services are slow as hell.

[weknowhowtolive]

I've been on the alpha and the beta for over a year and I have yet to have recieved a dvd that will just install on my ATI card.

I have to remove the card, intall the OS, add the card and then add the drivers. Piece of shit, like it's fucking windows 95 or some shit.Sounds like when i beta'd XP64bit. I had to use all the drivers they gave me and could only find a handful of third party drivers. My Sony DVD burner was useless.

I dont want to get Vista until they release DX10 and good, tested, 2nd or 3rd gen DX10 GPUs and i decide to buy a whole new machine.

[Packratt]

It was released to corperate clients last week. It's gold, well the business version, the home version is still in dev.

Hahaha, out of circulation for a month and now I'm way obsolete and behind the times.

*sigh*

[weknowhowtolive]

Its kinda of scary that a business would buy up a first gen os BEFORE the home version is released and has major bugs. THAT scares me. Stick with S2k3 or something but jesus...

[PapaSkin]

Citrix and VMware rock my world so I can stay on FreeBSD and Linux

[IronCityBoot]

I'll never be in MENSA but I think I'm of average intelligence and what not...but I read this whole thread and have no clue as to what you nerds are talking about. Just my two cents. You guys go on with your bad selves now.

[PapaSkin]

I'll never be in MENSA but I think I'm of average intelligence and what not...but I read this whole thread and have no clue as to what you nerds are talking about. Just my two cents. You guys go on with your bad selves now.
haha...Vista is the new windows release that is being tested right now to replace Windows XP. The Vista release will have desktop and server operating system releases - the problem with it today is 1) it's owned by Microsoft 2) it takes a ton of memory to run 3) it takes a lot of processor power to run 4) at this time, not many hardware platforms are supported (video cards, sound cards etc) 5) it's owned by Microsoft 6) your computer today may not be able to upgrade to it, meaning you gotta buy new hardware 7) it's owned by Microsoft.

The other side of the conversation is basically - put your windows applications that can ONLY run on windows on a shared server - and run Linux on your desktop...cheaper, runs on anything and very fast. When you have to do something Windows specific - log into the server and do it - then go back to your merry way in a faster, more effecient desktop computer (running linux/bsd)