world oldest football club

[scooterskin]

went to see the worlds oldest football club play today Sheffield FC founded in 1857. sadly they lost 2-3 against Eccleshill Utd :(

[SWIFTY]

went to see the worlds oldest football club play today Sheffield FC founded in 1857. sadly they lost 2-3 against Eccleshill Utd :(
its cause tyhere shit no one wanted to see them

[Mike]

its cause tyhere shit no one wanted to see them

Isn't Stoke the oldest? I know I could Google this, but if I remember correctly Stoke is a club that's been around for quite a while aren't they?

[WH Jay]

Isn't Stoke the oldest? I know I could Google this, but if I remember correctly Stoke is a club that's been around for quite a while aren't they?

Notts County are the oldest I think but yeah Stoke pretty much the same time too...

I presume he means oldest club who aren't a professional outfit now...

[Mike]

Notts County are the oldest I think but yeah Stoke pretty much the same time too...

I presume he means oldest club who aren't a professional outfit now...

Thanks for the confirmation, wasn't sure. Notts County? That is too much of an ITK reference for me. Never heard of them...

[scooterskin]

sorry guys sheffield Fc our the oldest club maybe not in the league but they are the oldest

scooterskin btw and the cunt swifty

[SWIFTY]

http://www.the-english-football-archive.com/football_history.htm

[E4 jon]

Alright you knowledge geeks, which is the oldest football ground in continuous use in senior football in Great Britain?

(Down to Level 5 is senior football)

[SWIFTY]

Sheffield Football Club (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield_F.C.), in Sheffield (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield), England is the oldest documented non-university club, and was founded in 1857 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1857). It initially played a code of its own devising and later switched to Association football (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_%28soccer%29) (soccer). FIFA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA) officially acknowledges it as the oldest Association football club in the world.

http://www.sheffieldfc.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield_F.C.

though what is funny they don't even play in sheffield anymore but in dronfield which is in derbyshire.

scooterskin

[sidcup kev]

Juventus got the black and white strip from watching Notts county !!

[scooterskin]

Alright you knowledge geeks, which is the oldest football ground in continuous use in senior football in Great Britain?

(Down to Level 5 is senior football)

now wasn't that notts county's ground?

[Bound Fo' Glory]

Notts County is the oldest professional organized team if I'm not mistaken.

[scooterskin]

The first match ever played under Football Association rules was played on January 9 1863, at Battersea Park, London.

FA President's XIV 2 (CW Alcock 2)
FA Secretary's XIV 0

President: A Pember, CW Alcock, HW Chambers, AM Tebbut, Gray, Drew, RG Graham, WJ Cutbill, A Morten, J Turner, Morris, Renshaw, Leuchers, A Scott
Secretary: EC Morley, JF Alcock, CM Tebbut, A Lloyd, C Hewitt, GT Wawn, JP Phillips, Innes, McCalmont, Needham, H Baker, AJ Baker, Hughes, Jackson

1864-65

The Football Association Laws of 1863 regulated the game in and around London but in the provinces clubs continued to follow their local rules for some time. The most important of these regional variants was at Sheffield. It was not until 1877 that Sheffield adopted the FA Laws which, at the same time, absorbed certain clauses from the Sheffield code.

There are some similarities in the formation of the Sheffield club, the oldest club in the world, and Notts County, the oldest Football League club. Both began with impromptu, informal kickabouts by a group of young men of the professional class and only after a couple of years was the club formally founded. Sheffield was formed on October 24, 1857, after informal play since 1855, and Notts County on December 7, 1864 after informal play since 1862. The two clubs first met in the 1864-65 season, the first important match on record played by a current member of the Football League.

January 2 at the Meadows Cricket Ground, Nottingham

Notts County 0
Sheffield 1 (James Wild, 40 mins)

Notts County: J Patterson (captain), T Elliott, W Elliott, R Fountain, H Moody, R Daft, CF Daft, G Parr, John Parr, H Parr, JW Thackeray, JB Gibson, EB Steegman, A Scrimshaw, W Goddard, H Simons, JS Wright, W Wright

Sheffield: N Creswick, AJ Creswick, HW Chambers, AA Dixon, John Shaw, JC Shaw, B Shepherd, C Appleton, AM Wild, F Knowles, W Turton, A Wrightman, James Wild, R Favell, H Cadman, GH Hawkesley, A Earnshaw, W. Chesterman

The Nottingham Review of January 6, 1865 reported that the match "attracted a good number of spectators. The Notts Club has only just been formed while the Sheffield one is of long standing".

1865-66

The Nottingham Forest club was formed this season and met Notts County in home and away fixtures - the oldest unbroken sequence between two clubs now in the Football League. During this season the Sheffield club met a London representative team but because of the differences over rules no further matches took place until 1871.

1867-68

The Sheffield Football Association was formed in 1867 while in Glasgow the Queen's Park club was formed on July 9 - Scotland's first soccer club.
In London, the Football Association organised two inter-county games which proved highly successful although it was some years before such matches became a regular feature of the game.

November 2 at Battersea Park, London

Middlesex 0
Surrey and Kent 0

The match had been arranged to take place at Beaufort House, Battersea, but Lord Ranelagh and the secretary of the Amateur Athletic Club, who had let the ground for the match, had a disagreement. So, at the last minute, it had to be switched, "compelled to seek refuge in the wilds of Battersea Park" says Bell's Life in London. In adds: "The ground was in a most objectionable state and totally unfit for football purposes, and the grass, which was several inches long and extremely thick, effectually prevented all attempts at dribbling, or any exhibition of the quick play which we might have expected from the reputation of many of the players angaged in this contest."
RM Thornton replaced CJ Thornton who arrived late because of the change of ground, and JK Barnes replaced WB Money who was detained at Cambridge because of an accident.

January 25 at West London Running Grounds, Brompton

Surrey 0
Kent 0

[Mike]

So when did Stoke get into the mix? Just out of curiousity...

[scooterskin]

STOKE City have long been considered the second-oldest Football League club, although uncertainty clouds the actual date of formation. In 1863 the story goes that former pupils of the Charterhouse School formed a football club while apprentices at the North Staffordshire Railway works in Stoke. But little evidence exists of any matches taking place, even though at that time some form of soccer may have already existed in the area as the headmaster of Stoke St Peter's School, J.Thomas, was an active sportsman and secretary of the local Victoria Athletic Club. <BR><BR>Five years later a report in The Field magazine of September 1868 made things much clearer. It stated a new Association Football club had been formed in Stoke-on-Trent...and its founder member was ex-Charterhouse School pupil Henry Almond. So it's possible that soccer had been played in the area during the previous five years, although in terms of official records the first game played by Almond's team, known as Stoke Ramblers and consisting largely of railway employees, was in October 1868. The historic match, against an EW May XV, ended in a 1-1 draw and was played at the Victoria Cricket Club ground, near to Lonsdale Street and Church Street. Almond, the skipper, scored the first-ever goal by a Stoke player, although he was soon to leave the club and the area to pursue his career as a civil engineer.

[Mike]

STOKE City have long been considered the second-oldest Football League club, although uncertainty clouds the actual date of formation. In 1863 the story goes that former pupils of the Charterhouse School formed a football club while apprentices at the North Staffordshire Railway works in Stoke. But little evidence exists of any matches taking place, even though at that time some form of soccer may have already existed in the area as the headmaster of Stoke St Peter's School, J.Thomas, was an active sportsman and secretary of the local Victoria Athletic Club. <BR><BR>Five years later a report in The Field magazine of September 1868 made things much clearer. It stated a new Association Football club had been formed in Stoke-on-Trent...and its founder member was ex-Charterhouse School pupil Henry Almond. So it's possible that soccer had been played in the area during the previous five years, although in terms of official records the first game played by Almond's team, known as Stoke Ramblers and consisting largely of railway employees, was in October 1868. The historic match, against an EW May XV, ended in a 1-1 draw and was played at the Victoria Cricket Club ground, near to Lonsdale Street and Church Street. Almond, the skipper, scored the first-ever goal by a Stoke player, although he was soon to leave the club and the area to pursue his career as a civil engineer.

Thanks for the info Scoot, I like sports history and football has such a long history across the pond. So did the Ramblers eventually become the Potters?

[E4 jon]

now wasn't that notts county's ground?

York Road, home of Maidenhead Utd FC is the oldest ground in continuous use and still in use today. 1870.

I visit regularly (in an official capacity of course!) and the first team manager is an old mate of mine.