OK, so like, why do so many people hate the Jews?

[Tokyohoon]

No, I'm not taking the piss. I'm seriously asking.

I mean, I know a lot of people hate Jewish folk, but I've never understood WHY this is.

Enlighten me.

[tousunis]

Because people have a knack for being ignorant morons.

[Doc]

Its the curly sideburns........and maybe the whole jesus-killing thing.

[thisistheuproar]

Its the curly sideburns........and maybe the whole jesus-killing thing.

Unfortunately, I think that has a lot to do with it for a lot of people. Even though Pontius Pilate wasn't a Jew, nor were the guards that took Jesus away... But I guess he "blasphemed" Judaism by claiming to be the Messiah, and that's why he was tried by the Roman gov't, for stirring up the public. This was after the Romans had officially allowed Judaism to exist, as long as they paid taxes. The Jews, from what I understand, worshipped their God as a tribal god, and were not concerned with the Roman gods, which is why the first commandment says "there will be no gods before me" (implying that there were other gods out there). Christians, however, were seen as hostile because they refused to recognize any god or gods but their own... Whatever.

I think a lot of people also misinterpret the U.S.'s interest in Israel as the function of a behind-the-scenes conspiracy. Personally, I don't think it's near that complicated.

Shit, there's so many sides to this that I could take up pages and pages.

[pxscooterskin]

Also - re the killing Jesus thing. The crux of Christian faith is, surely, the resurrection. Jesus had to die so that he could rise again.

[thisistheuproar]

Also - re the killing Jesus thing. The crux of Christian faith is, surely, the resurrection. Jesus had to die so that he could rise again.

You're so right. Glad you pointed that out. Although there were previous instances of "resurrections" in religious history (Marduk, for example), Christianity's unique position lies in its claim that a man died and was resurrected.

So why don't Christians just see the Jews or Romans as playing a necessary role in the fulfillment of their prophecy?

[pxscooterskin]

You're so right. Glad you pointed that out. Although there were previous instances of "resurrections" in religious history (Marduk, for example), Christianity's unique position lies in its claim that a man died and was resurrected.

So why don't Christians just see the Jews or Romans as playing a necessary role in the fulfillment of their prophecy?

Some do, especially regarding the role of Judas. But, as you said if a 'Christian Jew hater' brings up the killing of Christ, they're on dodgy ground.

[weknowhowtolive]

I dont hate jews. I dislike Israel, i am easily annoyed by some jews, but no more than other people. They have their stereotypes, and some are correct..the jewish mother/grandmother is pretty damn accurate from my experience. But hate? Nah.

[Doc]

Jesus's defilement of the Temple of Herod, the center of Jewish religion life and also the jewish bank, during passover, was the crime that brought him to trial and which outraged so many jewish people. He was then tried by Jewish priests and sentenced to death.

[LastRites]

Such question Hoon...cannot be answered without getting laughed at by the uneducated ones. And there is plenty of them here. If there is a topic which you want to shine some light on, Id be happy to reply.
It should be noted that not all Jews are hated by the people in question. I think you mean to ask the so called "anti-semites", why they hate Jews in general.
Some poor Jewish family minding their own business, adapting to wherever they live does not and should not concern anyone.
The main reason for hatred towards Jews by so many people is due to their influence on the world. From arts, literature, education to financial institutions, the media and politics. All these things together equal power.
Combine the points above with their loyalty to their "own" people first and their faith/culture's segregation aka racial laws...and you can see why people think of them differently than of someone lets say...ummm...from Romania.

[Blue Blood]

Hoon's poking a 800lb gorilla with a stick.
Let's see what happens...

[LastRites]

Hoon's poking a 800lb gorilla with a stick.
Let's see what happens...
hahaha...oh yeah he is. I just hope this thread...or this section of the board for that matter becomes a place for the elite WSNers. Otherwise this thread is going to be nothing but a back and forth name calling competition with the stupid ones.

[Blue Blood]

hahaha...oh yeah he is. I just hope this thread...or this section of the board for that matter becomes a place for the elite WSNers. Otherwise this thread is going to be nothing but a back and forth name calling competition with the stupid ones.

I'm sitting here,looking at a book with 300,000 different things I could post,but something makes me choose otherwise..
I also have a link with a ton of passages from the Talmud...Nope,i'm not posting that one either.
Who was the guy that helped finance the Bolshev...no..must...fight...temptation....:anim_d evil:

[Tokyohoon]

Hoon's poking a 800lb gorilla with a stick.
Let's see what happens...

That's the thing, I really do want to know people's reasoning behind it. The stupid among us probably won't get involved - or won't stay involved long. :biggrin:

So go ahead - lemme see what lurks behind the veil of the anti-semite.

[Vitnir]

If all Jews were like my father's mom's side of the family - EVERYONE would hate them. :D

They sorta teach "why Jews are hated" in schools here and they brought up some reasons you haven't mentioned. One of them which is personal segregation which they had chosen, living in their own neighourhoods (which were refered to as Ghettos since the middle ages), unwilling to intigrate. They were foreigners in a country, refusing to intigrate/convert which pissed people off. Popes and ministers of the time, who firmly belived that these were Jews who killed Jesus, set out rules by which Jews, within the Christian "kingdom", cannot have property in the form of real estate, cattle, land, etc. and are not allowed to do any trade but money lending - a trade which was considered tainted in the eyes of Christians. That's where all the Jewesh gold myths come out of.
There were also "blood tales" of Jews making their maza out of Christian children's blood so whenever a kid would dissapear at the time near passover, they blamed it on the Jews and went pillaging them. As a matter of fact, there was a rather "fresh" story like that in eastern Europe in the beginning of the 20th century where a Sinagogue's usher was blamed to kidnap a child, murdering and cannibalising him for "Jewesh Rituals". The Usher was hanged - the boy, who simply ran away, returned after a while.

As for the Talmud - most Jews these days think it's primitive and sick and written by a niandarthal.

[King of all Buffets]

No, I'm not taking the piss. I'm seriously asking.

I mean, I know a lot of people hate Jewish folk, but I've never understood WHY this is.

Enlighten me.

Ive talked to people about this before and the popular answer seems to be 100 percent because of popular stereotypes..... A guy i work with whi is from a small town but pretty educatted and not what I would call a dumbass still thought Jews only looked like how orthodox jews look like and dress... He then said that he had never met a jew before, which I then enlightened him as to a couple of different people that our compnay deals with that were Jewish. He was all "really?....hey he's a cool guy"


I also find that people are not really informed about the religion and what its about. Sit through 1 service and y'ou can clearly see the simillarities with Christianity. A the idea of knowledge and learning is a very central Jewish value and so anything to do with learning and bettering yourself is supported and encouraged. I think other cultures dont really place a big amphasis on thats an thus you get people that seem to have chip on there shoulder obout "Jew lawyers" or "rich Jews"


The big thing i think is peoples dislike for Israel and its connection with the U.S. People tend to see that as the actions of a people )jews) and not just a nations government.

Whenever I have spent time with my jewish family and their community I have always found them to be warm, welcomming, boisterous and fun. Its always been a positive experience.

[King of all Buffets]

Such question Hoon...cannot be answered without getting laughed at by the uneducated ones. And there is plenty of them here. If there is a topic which you want to shine some light on, Id be happy to reply.
It should be noted that not all Jews are hated by the people in question. I think you mean to ask the so called "anti-semites", why they hate Jews in general.
Some poor Jewish family minding their own business, adapting to wherever they live does not and should not concern anyone.
The main reason for hatred towards Jews by so many people is due to their influence on the world. From arts, literature, education to financial institutions, the media and politics. All these things together equal power.
Combine the points above with their loyalty to their "own" people first and their faith/culture's segregation aka racial laws...and you can see why people think of them differently than of someone lets say...ummm...from Romania.

Maybe they should trying so hard to be successfull..... Do you think that its a conspiracy that most of the world biggesst companies are run by white males?

[Doc]

Perhaps its because they arrogantly claim they are the chosen people?
So do others
Perhaps it is simply because they are an easy group to single out?
You must already be disliked to become a scapegoat.
Perhaps it is because they killed Jesus?
why has there not been a long history of anti-Roman hate then?
Perhaps it is because of their success?
The Jews of 17th- 20th century Poland and Russia were dirt poor, had no influence and yet they were hated. Furthermore, why did the Jews struggle to get even one country to accept the refugees who were trying to escape the European inferno during the Holocaust - if they are so powerful?

I dont think it is an inherently unique jewish factor that has caused anti-semitism, I think it is hatred of the religion - at Mt Sinai jews were told that there is one God, who makes moral demands on all of humanity. Consequently, at Sinai the Jewish nation became the target for the hatred of those whose strongest drive is to liberate mankind from the shackles of conscience and morality.

[Gentle Jones]

Protocols of the Elders of Zion I'm sure had some influence over the past 100 years. For those who aren't familiar with it here's a new york times article about a graphic novel which came out last year debunking the document (highly recommend eisner's book)

The Plot: The Secret Story of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (2005)

"A Contract With God," set in the tenements of his Bronx youth and published in 1978, established Mr. Eisner as the father of the graphic novel. Now he has taken the adult comic-book format a step further, with a graphic history that applies his dark, 1930's-style illustrations to real events of a century ago.

This latest work, called "The Plot," tells the story behind the creation of "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," the infamous Russian forgery that purported to reveal a Jewish plan to rule the world. Mr. Eisner, the son of Jews who fled Europe, has reached into the past to say something about the present: a time, he says, when anti-Semitism is again on the rise.
"I was surfing the Web one day when I came across this site promoting `The Protocols' to readers in the Mideast," said Mr. Eisner, 86. "I was amazed that there were people who still believed `The Protocols' were real, and I was disturbed to learn later that this site was just one of many that promoted these lies in the Muslim world. I decided something had to be done."

Sitting in his studio-office, surrounded by the paraphernalia of 70 years in comics — honorary plaques, statues in the shape of a certain cartoon mouse, an Al Hirschfeld drawing of his profile — Mr. Eisner began his research. It did not matter that he was in a strip-mall office building outside Fort Lauderdale, while other elderly former New Yorkers trooped by on their way to the dentist. He was fighting for justice in a bleak world, the way his most famous comic-book character, the Spirit, did in American newspapers throughout the 1940's.

Soon Mr. Eisner realized that the story behind "The Protocols" was too confusing and myth-ridden to rely on the Internet. Enlisting the help of N. C. Christopher Couch, who teaches a course on graphic novels at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, the two began piecing together the facts, helped by a French comic-book fan, Benjamin Herzberg.
Historians say "The Protocols," first published in 1903, were fabricated in Russia by the czar's secret police as a way of undermining a growing social reform movement. Jews figured prominently in this movement, and the police theorized that they could discredit it by making it appear to be a front for a sinister Jewish agenda. Mathieu Golovinski, a propagandist, concocted the 24 fraudulent "protocols" or minutes, of an international meeting of Jewish bankers, journalists and financiers outlining a purported Jewish-Masonic plot to dominate world affairs.

The forgery was revealed in 1921 when the Times of London published a series of articles demonstrating that the actual source for the text was a a French political satire published in 1864 by Maurice Joly, in which Machiavelli and Montesquieu discuss a plan for world domination by Napoleon III.

"Golovinski simply took sections from Joly's `Dialogue in Hell' and claimed they were conversations from this alleged secret meeting," Mr. Eisner said. "In many cases he merely copied large segments of Joly's satire verbatim while substituting the phrase `the Jews' for `Napoleon III."

In "The Plot," which is about 100 pages, Mr. Eisner reveals this fabrication through three different methods that draw on all phases of his 70-year career. In a short introduction he provides an account of how he came upon "The Protocols" and learned the truth behind them.

In the main body of the work he depicts the creation and unmasking of "The Protocols" through a comic-book-like series of panels and text. In the concluding section Mr. Eisner displays numerous excerpts from "The Protocols" alongside examples from the text in Joly's satire.

Like other Jewish artists Mr. Eisner entered comics in the mid-30's because he was restricted from more respectable fields like graphic design or illustration. Yet once he was there, he introduced ambitious techniques and themes. From this platform he developed his new genre to take on more serious and personal subjects. In many of these later works he dwelled on the anti-Semitism that had shaped him. His most recent work "Fagin the Jew," published last year by Doubleday, was an effort to construct a back story to "Oliver Twist" in which Fagin's struggles as a Jew help turn him into a criminal.

Denis Kitchen, Mr. Eisner's agent and onetime publisher, described "The Plot," which is still being inked, as more subtle and intellectual than his other creations. "It's closer to a documentary" than an action film, he said.

One sequence of panels depicts a fateful meeting at a Constantinople cafe between a bearded, valise-toting "White Russian émigré with something to sell" and a mustached, pipe-smoking patron with a newspaper sticking out of his pocket, who turns out to be Phillip Graves, the correspondent for The Times of London who exposed the fraud.
"The great irony of `The Protocols' ' continued existence is that they were proven to be false as early as 1921," Mr. Eisner said, remarking that by now the real story had been relegated largely to the realm of scholarship. "I wanted to create a work that would be understood by the widest possible audience."



hoon, if you've not heard of the document then hopefully this sheds some light on the subject. i really do recommend eisner's book, its a succinct history lesson and an interesting read.

google "the protocols" and you'll see lots of groups using it to prop up their platforms.

[Doc]

Protocols of the Elders of Zion I'm sure had some influence over the past 100 years. For those who aren't familiar with it here's a new york times article about a graphic novel which came out last year debunking the document (highly recommend eisner's book)




hoon, if you've not heard of the document then hopefully this sheds some light on the subject. i really do recommend eisner's book, its a succinct history lesson and an interesting read.

It goes deeper than the last 100 years, much deeper.

[Gentle Jones]

i don't doubt it and i'm far from an expert

just thought the info might be of interest, it certainly relates to the topic

[King of all Buffets]

Christianity has been actively anti semitic especially dudes people like Martin Luthor. People always say that anti semitism in Germany was brought by Hitler but the truth is that Martin Luthor had planted the seed much earlier.

[SWIFTY]

I think it’s the fact the Jews have themselves become oppressors

[King of all Buffets]

I think it’s the fact the Jews have themselves become oppressors

Is that the Jews or the Israeli government?

[Vitnir]

Maybe they should trying so hard to be successfull..... Do you think that its a conspiracy that most of the world biggesst companies are run by white males?
You see, he wants to see them as poor and helpless, like Gana people or something. Once they actually make more effort, refusing to be poor and helpless, and become creative, they're "danger" in his eyes. If as many whites and others would do the same effort to be successfull, this would would look a whole lot better.


And for the love of fuck - don't turn it into another Israeli govt. thread.

[grouchybastid]

One of them which is personal segregation which they had chosen, living in their own neighourhoods (which were refered to as Ghettos since the middle ages), unwilling to intigrate. They were foreigners in a country, refusing to intigrate/convert which pissed people off.

I think Vitnir's nailed a big part of it right here. To this day, Jewish communities (especially Hasidim) tend to remain very closed. People fear and hate what they don't understand, and any closed community remains mysterious to outsiders.

I have always found it interesting as well, that many (and here I'm generalizing, which I tend to avoid) Jews *define* themselves as Jewish first and foremost. You know, you have that conversation about what your family is...non-Jews will give their family ethnicity/country of origin, whereas Jews will say "I'm Jewish". It's another enforced difference.

[Vitnir]

Most Jews these days are not religious, deffinitly not Hassidic, as a matter of fact, most of them feel repelled by Hassidic and Orthodox and the likes because they're more liberal. Most of the people I know and see simply hate religion and find the Jewesh one, especially, to be more primitive, schauvinistic and "out of date".

[Loathe]

Some do, especially regarding the role of Judas. But, as you said if a 'Christian Jew hater' brings up the killing of Christ, they're on dodgy ground.

Have you heard about the recent gnostic writings by Judas that were discovered?

Very intresting stuff.

[Vitnir]

Have you heard about the recent gnostic writings by Judas that were discovered?

Very intresting stuff.
Those who want to belive an entire nation is responsible for the death of Christ, will do so and claim the newfound scrolls are some sort of Jewesh fake.

[thisistheuproar]

Have you heard about the recent gnostic writings by Judas that were discovered?

Very intresting stuff.

There's a whole grip of books out now about the Gnostic writings that were found at Nag Hammadi. The Da Vinci Code kind of reawakened interest in them.

There's one called "The Laughing Jesus: Religious Lies and Gnostic Wisdom", but I'm not sure if it talks about Judas or not.

[CptnSpaulding]

I dont hate jews. I dislike Israel, i am easily annoyed by some jews, but no more than other people. They have their stereotypes, and some are correct..the jewish mother/grandmother is pretty damn accurate from my experience. But hate? Nah.
haha, yea i have noticed some jewish parents to act exactly like Kyles Mom from South Park

[Vitnir]

Kyle's mom is a bitch! :D

[grouchybastid]

Most Jews these days are not religious, deffinitly not Hassidic

That's part of the problem right there. Why would a person identify with a religion if they are not religious? I was raised Lutheran, but am not religious at all...so I don't identify with it, or as it. Your point is perfectly illustrated by a friend of mine...not religious really at all, yet if you ask him what his heritage is, he'll say Jewish. As I see it, all that does is enforce differences and give haters something else to latch onto.

[weknowhowtolive]

Maybe they should trying so hard to be successfull..... Do you think that its a conspiracy that most of the world biggesst companies are run by white males?I think his point is that once they get into certain positions they treat everyone else like a huge corporation treats the public.

[CptnSpaulding]

That's part of the problem right there. Why would a person identify with a religion if they are not religious? I was raised Lutheran, but am not religious at all...so I don't identify with it, or as it. Your point is perfectly illustrated by a friend of mine...not religious really at all, yet if you ask him what his heritage is, he'll say Jewish. As I see it, all that does is enforce differences and give haters something else to latch onto.
i feel the same way.....jewish people feel as if they should be treated like there black. That is another reason people dont like them...they want to be seperated.

[King of all Buffets]

i feel the same way.....jewish people feel as if they should be treated like there black. That is another reason people dont like them...they want to be seperated.

the Jewish community is close knitt because of the anti-semitism they have received....its really a "chicken came before the egg" arguement

[weknowhowtolive]

the Jewish community is close knitt because of the anti-semitism they have received....its really a "chicken came before the egg" arguementThats a bunch of fucking shit. I guess because somewhere in my past my scottish ancestors were constantly attacked, persecuted, enslaved etc by the english, i should act like the world bent me over and fucked me in the ass? What a fucking bunch of shit. Bullshit like what you just said fuels the fire.

[King of all Buffets]

Thats a bunch of fucking shit. I guess because somewhere in my past my scottish ancestors were constantly attacked, persecuted, enslaved etc by the english, i should act like the world bent me over and fucked me in the ass? What a fucking bunch of shit. Bullshit like what you just said fuels the fire.

Take that small period in history and have it start a thousand years earlier and continue up till the current day....then you could accurately compare the two.

[weknowhowtolive]

Take that small period in history and have it start a thousand years earlier and continue up till the current day....then you could accurately compare the two.Uhhh...you got proof that 2000 years ago the jews were persecuted in Egypt?

[Loathe]

Take that small period in history and have it start a thousand years earlier and continue up till the current day....then you could accurately compare the two.

Ok, so replace Scotish with Irish.

[grouchybastid]

the Jewish community is close knitt because of the anti-semitism they have received....its really a "chicken came before the egg" arguement

I'm not sure I buy this, honestly. But say for argument's sake, if your right then where did the anti-Jewish (I refuse to use the term anti-Semitic. Some Jews are Semitic, not all Semites are Jewish) sentiment come from?

Besides, the easiest way to deal with negative feelings towards a closed community would be to open the community more...doesn't happen tho.

[King of all Buffets]

Uhhh...you got proof that 2000 years ago the jews were persecuted in Egypt?

Hello its called The Ten Commandments starring Charlton Heston...rent it:biggrin:

[weknowhowtolive]

Hello its called The Ten Commandments starring Charlton Heston...rent it:biggrin:Hello its called there's zero proof that the jews were ever enslaved unless you believe the bible.

-edit-

Funny how whenever someone brings up a point, you make a joke...its like your little way of avoiding being wrong. Except you're still wrong.

[King of all Buffets]

Hello its called there's zero proof that the jews were ever enslaved unless you believe the bible.

Doesnt everybody? :confused:

[weknowhowtolive]

Doesnt everybody? :confused:So you go off about the jews being persecuted for thousands of years, i say there's no proof and you talk about the Heston. Nice dude.

[King of all Buffets]

So you go off about the jews being persecuted for thousands of years, i say there's no proof and you talk about the Heston. Nice dude.

I could give you a number of sites that talk about it but you would probably just yell "bullshit" 10 times and not beleive it anyways. The point is that you cannot compare the persecution of most groups to the persecution of the Jews because no other group has been on the receiving end for as long as they have.

[weknowhowtolive]

I could give you a number of sites that talk about it but you would probably just yell "bullshit" 10 times and not beleive it anyways. The point is that you cannot compare the persecution of most groups to the persecution of the Jews because no other group has been on the receiving end for as long as they have.Are you kidding?

[Doc]

The longevity of anti-semitism does make it rather.....er.......special.

[King of all Buffets]

The longevity of anti-semitism does make it rather.....er.......special.

Right...I am not making a qualatative argument as to severity, causes or anything of the sort....They have been shit on the longest.

[King of all Buffets]

Are you kidding?

..........no

[weknowhowtolive]

..........noWow...ok...how so? When?

[King of all Buffets]

Wow...ok...how so? When?

Fuck dude if you have such a hardon about this then you find me a group who has been persecutted for as long and as severe as the Jews have.

[Blue Blood]

Hoon's a troublemaker:biggrin:

It's like Survivor-Skinhead Island

[weknowhowtolive]

Fuck dude if you have such a hardon about this then you find me a group who has been persecutted for as long and as severe as the Jews have.No i want you to point out all this terrible persecution so i can point out all the genocidal crap the jews pulled on other people.

[Blue Blood]

Drunkards are oppressed everytime the liquor store closes up for the night.
It's downright depressing.

[King of all Buffets]

No i want you to point out all this terrible persecution so i can point out all the genocidal crap the jews pulled on other people.

Listen I am not trying to defend their actions at all or dent that they shit to other groups.....if you wanna go on a tirade bout how the Jews fucked over everyone then go ahead lets hear all about the stuff they did.

[LastRites]

Sure the Jews have been living an "unfair" life. No different than the todays gypsies...with no homeland, they were scattered all over Europe. They were chased out from every land not because they were "Jewish" but because they considered being Jewish more important than where they were living. Being like that and working with money/taxes, holding key positions by the Kings side it is clear why people begun disliking them. I think this is where most of todays anti-semitism has developed. That is why England, Spain and every other nation in Europe expelled them. But why were they scattered all over Europe? - because for centuries they have been using the same argument that is used today with the "holocaust". They are the "persecuted people" but they are the "chosen people" so for the sake of "humanity" (which they developed) we must feel sorry and accept them. In reality they they just werent capable of establishing their own homeland because the powerful muslims wouldnt let them settle in their back yard. So Jews decided to live like "parasites" everywhere else....and it took 2000 years for them to develop ways to get to power, hold it and use it for their benefit. (such as creating the state of Israel through UN, U.S, etc) And keeping that power not only in Israel but in every other nations in the world through banking, illuminati groups and becoming politicians by changing their name to blend in with the people.
Now while they got their state, based on their rules, culture, faith and some might even argue that race plays a factor...its clear that they want Israel to be a certain way while sitting in power of other nations they do the complete opposite. It goes right back of them choosing being Jewish over anything else. And thats where the whole conspiracy theories come into play. Why do Jews who have their own homeland now...continue to live and hold power everywhere else...and why do they introduce all nations to new laws, liberalism, forms of communism, immigration and other things which Israel stays clear off? Why are such ideas pushed onto non-Jews?

[King of all Buffets]

Sure the Jews have been living an "unfair" life. No different than the todays gypsies...with no homeland, they were scattered all over Europe. They were chased out from every land not because they were "Jewish" but because they considered being Jewish more important than where they were living. Being like that and working with money/taxes, holding key positions by the Kings side it is clear why people begun disliking them. I think this is where most of todays anti-semitism has developed. That is why England, Spain and every other nation in Europe expelled them. But why were they scattered all over Europe? - because for centuries they have been using the same argument that is used today with the "holocaust". They are the "persecuted people" but they are the "chosen people" so for the sake of "humanity" (which they developed) we must feel sorry and accept them. In reality they they just werent capable of establishing their own homeland because the powerful muslims wouldnt let them settle in their back yard. So Jews decided to live like "parasites" everywhere else....and it took 2000 years for them to develop ways to get to power, hold it and use it for their benefit. (such as creating the state of Israel through UN, U.S, etc) And keeping that power not only in Israel but in every other nations in the world through banking, illuminati groups and becoming politicians by changing their name to blend in with the people.
Now while they got their state, based on their rules, culture, faith and some might even argue that race plays a factor...its clear that they want Israel to be a certain way while sitting in power of other nations they do the complete opposite. It goes right back of them choosing being Jewish over anything else. And thats where the whole conspiracy theories come into play. Why do Jews who have their own homeland now...continue to live and hold power everywhere else...and why do they introduce all nations to new laws, liberalism, forms of communism, immigration and other things which Israel stays clear off? Why are such ideas pushed onto non-Jews?

How did/do they live like parasites?

[weknowhowtolive]

How did/do they live like parasites?

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–noun 1.an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment. 2.a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others.

[King of all Buffets]

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–noun 1.an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment. 2.a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others.

Oh i get it you can answer the question.

[Packratt]

par‧a‧site  /ˈpærhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngəˌsaɪt/ Pronunciation Key (http://skinheads.net/forums/) - Show Spelled Pronunciation (http://skinheads.net/forums/)[par-uh-sahyt] Pronunciation Key (http://skinheads.net/forums/) - Show IPA Pronunciation (http://skinheads.net/forums/)
–noun 1.an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment. 2.a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others.

Thanks for the definition, but that doesn't tell us about what all jewish people do that make them fit this definition in your mind.

[LastRites]

How did/do they live like parasites?
Try reading my post.
Jews for centuries have been living in other nations of Europe and holding influencial positions. Influencial to the king, to the people and to the nation they lived in. The fact that they consider their Jewishness as a priority and not where they lived speaks for itself. Remember they are the chosen people...and they must stick together according to their faith/culture. They used nations as hosts to gather their money and power and use to to develop or bring to power other key figures, intrduce laws and of course create wars between neighbours. Jew in Germany and Jew in Russia, together will be Jews with the same goal but the people doing the dirty work, the people suffering under these rules/conditions, people fighting in these wars were not Jewish. You have to take ideas such as Boshevism and/or Communism for example into this conversations.
You gotta keep in mind that these are not all Jews Im speaking of. The Jews in question are the so called 1st class Jews...while the 2nd class Jews were treated like non-Jews...imprisoned in Russia by Stalisnism, in Germany by Hitlerism, etc. Such things affected all people except families such as the Rothschilds. But now this thread can turn into a debate over what "goal" I am speaking of. That goal to some is zionism, illuminati, etc.

[weknowhowtolive]

Thanks for the definition, but that doesn't tell us about what all jewish people do that make them fit this definition in your mind.Well I never said they fit the discription and definatly not ALL jewish people. I dont think LR said that either...im pretty sure he said in the beginning this wasnt about ALL jews. But after LR talked about jews not having a homeland and bouncing from country to country and then getting kicked out, then comparing that to a parasite...i didnt really get how you could ask "what makes you think they are like parasites."

[weknowhowtolive]

Ive met a shitload of jews. I was a roadie/DJ for a jewish band for 3 years...ive met thousands of jews, and there is a HUGE difference between rich jews and poor/middle class jews. The second ones i dont mind...the first ones? Fuck them, i hope they all rot in hell.

[King of all Buffets]

Well I never said they fit the discription and definatly not ALL jewish people. I dont think LR said that either...im pretty sure he said in the beginning this wasnt about ALL jews. But after LR talked about jews not having a homeland and bouncing from country to country and then getting kicked out, then comparing that to a parasite...i didnt really get how you could ask "what makes you think they are like parasites."


Did they spend history as criminals or on wellfare?...thats a parasite.. Not a merchant or lawyer. I dont understand how you can say that someone who works, pays taxes and supports his family is a prasite.

[Packratt]

Ive met a shitload of jews. I was a roadie/DJ for a jewish band for 3 years...ive met thousands of jews, and there is a HUGE difference between rich jews and poor/middle class jews. The second ones i dont mind...the first ones? Fuck them, i hope they all rot in hell.

So... the question begs to be asked... What is it about a rich jewish individual that is so much more distasteful to you when compared to a rich white person or rich person of any color, religeous affiliation, or nationality?

[weknowhowtolive]

Did they spend history as criminals or on wellfare?...thats a parasite.. Not a merchant or lawyer. I dont understand how you can say that someone who works, pays taxes and supports his family is a prasite.Really? god damn. You think every country in europe booted them because they didnt like them paying taxes? Its almost like...you're making jews out to be a...a....RACE

[weknowhowtolive]

So... the question begs to be asked... What is it about a rich jewish individual that is so much more distasteful to you when compared to a rich white person or rich person of any color, religeous affiliation, or nationality?I have to go shower but i will get to this question once im settled at work. Its a good question, and i definatly have an answer, i just need time to type it out.

[grouchybastid]

They were chased out from every land not because they were "Jewish" but because they considered being Jewish more important than where they were living.

Basically what I said before.


And keeping that power not only in Israel but in every other nations in the world through banking, illuminati groups and becoming politicians by changing their name to blend in with the people.

And here's where it goes south. Illuminati groups? Are you kidding? There is no world-wide organization of Jews (or anybody else, for that matter) that is pulling the strings of world government or economy. There is no world-wide group of "1st class Jews" that are running things.

And as far as Jews living "like parasites" in non-Jewish lands...what do you call Christian missionaries? Are they parasites? What about expats living in foreign countries? A parasite lives off it's host and gives nothing back. Any person or group of persons living in a country aren't parasites by definition if they hold jobs and pay taxes.

[Mommys_lil_Chola]

I hate the Jews because they killed Jesus and Hitlers mama.

[Packratt]

I hate the Jews because they killed Jesus and Hitlers mama.

Ah yes, I can clearly remember when my wife went back in time to kill baby Jesus along with the rest of the jews.

[Mommys_lil_Chola]

Ah yes, I can clearly remember when my wife went back in time to kill baby Jesus along with the rest of the jews.

I could've sworn I saw something in the bible about her and her time traveling ways. Absolutely horrible.

[Vitnir]

That's part of the problem right there. Why would a person identify with a religion if they are not religious? I was raised Lutheran, but am not religious at all...so I don't identify with it, or as it. Your point is perfectly illustrated by a friend of mine...not religious really at all, yet if you ask him what his heritage is, he'll say Jewish. As I see it, all that does is enforce differences and give haters something else to latch onto.
It's not so much about Religion. Many people, including Jews themselves, belive being a Jew is not a religion but a race, ethnical background if you like. Some of them may keep several traditions like Passover feasts (or just because the fridge is empty they'll go to aunt Sheela for maza ball soup and kneidlah).


...And everyone were enslaved at some point by someone.

[thisistheuproar]

Uhhh...you got proof that 2000 years ago the jews were persecuted in Egypt?

There's tons of proof. Archaeology and non-Biblical texts have corroborated that story over and over. It's even depicted in engravings on display in Greece, because a lot of people fled to Greece during first part of the Exodus.

I'm not religious, so this isn't just some religious rhetoric. I err on the side of atheism, actually. The historical accounts in the Bible, though, are actually very historically accurate. People, places, and events that are accounted for in the Bible have been discovered by the shitloads during excavations, and more evidence is being uncovered all the time.

Now whether or not you put a spiritual twist on those people, places, and events is a completely different issue.

[LastRites]

Did they spend history as criminals or on wellfare?...thats a parasite.. Not a merchant or lawyer. I dont understand how you can say that someone who works, pays taxes and supports his family is a prasite.
During Rome's rule and close to its colape, the Jews were limited as to what they were allowed to do. Their way to survive was slave trade. They specialized in this. This allowed them to be somewhat influencial to politicians.
During the Karling dynasty the word Jew and the word merchant had the same meaning. In Hungary and in Poland, all coins had Hebrew writing on them. Over time, European trade was in the hands of Jews. All of Europe except for Scandinavia where the Jews were not allowed to Enter. Trade controlled nations. Sometime in 1200, the Catholic church broke the Jewish trade and limited them to desgined living areas and limited Christians from communicating with the Jews. Next came expulsion. England in 1290, Spain in 1306, etc. etc. The kings were fed up with the tax collecting being only in the hands of Jews. This was not because they were good at it, this was because the tax collecting was done for the Jews and their trade/interests instead of the interest of the king/country. All nation's financial problems were solved in 1200's and 1300's by Jewsih expulsion. (this will require some reading to understand it better)
The expulsion lated until the mid 1600's. When Jews were expelled or limited to live in designed areas, they created the so called ghettos which helped them develop an inner structure of their lives. Socially, culturally and religiously. It was the only way for them to practice their rituals, etc. which the rest of the Christian people saw as wrong, immoral, etc. (circumcision is an example) Because the Jews were of Judaic faith and of asiatic race...living in European lands of Christian faith, the ghettos were a perfect way to have one Jew live next to another and keep their identity. This was the only way for Jews to be Jews, These Jewish characters had to be hidden from the public...ghettos provided that security for them and when and if they wanted to go out step their foot in a powerful or financial position, they had to change their name. Different person? - no.. just the appearance. In other way...a parasite. Their loyalty is to Jews and Judaic faith first...then to the place they reside in. To this day, all over the world...we call Jews Jews instead of Russians or Romanians even though they resided there for centuries.
Just to keep in mind, there is a huge difference between the biblical Hebrew Jews who were sheppards and the Jews we are talking about.
The Jews we are talking about dont believe in the first testament but they belive in the Talmud, they dont speak Hebrew but Jidish, they are not from Israel but from far east of the Mediterranean sea.

[LastRites]

And here's where it goes south. Illuminati groups? Are you kidding? There is no world-wide organization of Jews (or anybody else, for that matter) that is pulling the strings of world government or economy. There is no world-wide group of "1st class Jews" that are running things.

And as far as Jews living "like parasites" in non-Jewish lands...what do you call Christian missionaries? Are they parasites? What about expats living in foreign countries? A parasite lives off it's host and gives nothing back. Any person or group of persons living in a country aren't parasites by definition if they hold jobs and pay taxes.
Ive answered these in my post above. I dont want to get into this world conspiracy thing just yet...but wanted to bring up becasue some people (note I said some in my earlier post) belive it plays a role and is part of the world view of the Jews.

[Argyleskin]

It's not so much about Religion. Many people, including Jews themselves, belive being a Jew is not a religion but a race, ethnical background if you like.


Exactly. There are actual physical traits (higher rates in breast cancer) that jews hold..similar to a "race". They were not mixed as freely as Euro whites in the beginning, just as blacks were not mixed freely. They married their own, mated with their own, lived amoung their own people. Much closer knit then most European groups if you will.
I myself consider being Jewish blood..not religion. It's in my blood, I have traits very consistent with "sterotypical" jews. My voice for instance..pretty nasal and I can get whiney even when I don't mean to. My nose as well, either Jews seem to have larger noses or pointed ones..I got a pointed one..as well as sharper features. Sure those could be given to my German and Hungarian sides in one way or another. I consider it much more then going to temple and claiming religious affiliation. Maybe I'm a baffooon, a know nothing. But I believe Jeremy as well has spoken on this topic..but for the life of me cannot recall if he agree'd with me or against. Hahaha. Maybe he'll weigh in too!

[King of all Buffets]

Really? god damn. You think every country in europe booted them because they didnt like them paying taxes? Its almost like...you're making jews out to be a...a....RACE

I cant say that they are or are not, it seems to be a cloudy issue.

[CptnSpaulding]

I cant say that they are or are not, it seems to be a cloudy issue.
if they are there own race....then my race is italian..... i knew i should have wrote "other" on all my job applications

[steelcityskin]

Jewish is a race and a religion. It is a people. I am not Jewish, I am Christian, but I am a Jew because my mother is Jewish. It is a blood line. And Last Rites you sound like a bitch made hater. Is it wrong to look out for your own? To take care of your own? To prosper in bussiness and make a shit load of money? Isn't that what we all strive for? Aren't WP's (more for there own safety) sepratists? People dont like Jews because they say they run the country..You dont just get the country handed to you..these dudes worked hard and have an ethic that most dont.

seems you and last rites said the same thing.. why is it ok for jews to "keep their bloodline and be seperate" but if a white guy wants to he's racist? think about the double standard there.

[King of all Buffets]

if they are there own race....then my race is italian..... i knew i should have wrote "other" on all my job applications

you should, I always put partial greaseball on my job apps :wink:

[LastRites]

And Last Rites you sound like a bitch made hater. Is it wrong to look out for your own? To take care of your own? To prosper in bussiness and make a shit load of money? Isn't that what we all strive for? Aren't WP's (more for there own safety) sepratists? People dont like Jews because they say they run the country..You dont just get the country handed to you..these dudes worked hard and have an ethic that most dont.
You are absolutely right. Its 100% right to look after your own. But in my opinion most if not all of this wasnt done by hard work but rather by putting the guilt on people for their persecution through out the years. Because they were driven out of their lands and enslaved by the Egyptians, Romans, etc. hundreds of years later European nations payed for it by accepting them into their countries only to see that their interest was for their own not where they lived. Today...another reason - the holocaust...we see it again where 60 years later new generations pay and feel guilty for them. And we again...we put them in those positions of power and wealth. This has nothing to do with WP's. Many people not even involved in any racist beliefs think this way.

[steelcityskin]

You dont think there is a difference between hateing someone because of who or what they are and taking care of your own people?!? Thats ignorant.i've heard and read of jews doing the same exact thing. no better, no worse, just seems to me jewish folks can get away with that and it's ok because they throw up the "but i'm jewish, i've been oppressed" card.
and jeremy, not seeing that similarity is ignorant. take a step back and look at the macro view, not the micro.

[King of all Buffets]

You are absolutely right. Its 100% right to look after your own. But in my opinion most if not all of this wasnt done by hard work but rather by putting the guilt on people for their persecution through out the years. Because they were driven out of their lands and enslaved by the Egyptians, Romans, etc. hundreds of years later European nations payed for it by accepting them into their countries only to see that their interest was for their own not where they lived. Today...another reason - the holocaust...we see it again where 60 years later new generations pay and feel guilty for them. And we again...we put them in those positions of power and wealth. This has nothing to do with WP's. Many people not even involved in any racist beliefs think this way.

Every successful jew i know has gotten to where they are by working hard in school and then in their proffession.

[weknowhowtolive]

There's tons of proof. Archaeology and non-Biblical texts have corroborated that story over and over. It's even depicted in engravings on display in Greece, because a lot of people fled to Greece during first part of the Exodus.

I'm not religious, so this isn't just some religious rhetoric. I err on the side of atheism, actually. The historical accounts in the Bible, though, are actually very historically accurate. People, places, and events that are accounted for in the Bible have been discovered by the shitloads during excavations, and more evidence is being uncovered all the time.

Now whether or not you put a spiritual twist on those people, places, and events is a completely different issue.

Ive never seen any proof. Ive seen lots of proof that shows jews having their own burial grounds, statues, holding high positions in israel, some right underneath the Pharohs and kings of Egypt. There is even evidence leaning towards jews being hired as contractors to build pyraminds and paid well for it.

[King of all Buffets]

i've heard and read of jews doing the same exact thing. no better, no worse, just seems to me jewish folks can get away with that and it's ok because they throw up the "but i'm jewish, i've been oppressed" card.
and jeremy, not seeing that similarity is ignorant. take a step back and look at the macro view, not the micro.

I have never in my 30 years heard a jew make excuses like that...have you? or is this just rhetoric?

[weknowhowtolive]

So... the question begs to be asked... What is it about a rich jewish individual that is so much more distasteful to you when compared to a rich white person or rich person of any color, religeous affiliation, or nationality?

I misread this question. I never said i hate jews, or that i like rich white dudes more than rich jews. Ive gotten drunk with hasidic (sp?) jews at some crappy house and had a great time for free, and ive sat on the top floor of the most expensive hotel in San Fran where some rich jewish brain surgeon rented the room for a week for over a million dollars and served 7 course meals with sherbert in between ever course and served us spaghetti O's. I dont doubt a rich white dude ( iguess jews arent white) wouldnt do the same thing. I think you misunderstood what i was saying.

[Blue Blood]

seems you and last rites said the same thing.. why is it ok for jews to "keep their bloodline and be seperate" but if a white guy wants to he's racist? think about the double standard there.
Well put.
There is a double standard.I think white folks could to learn a few lessons from jews.
There is nothing wrong with A: Being proud of your folk/culture
B: Looking out for your own
That's not racism,that's good sense.

[weknowhowtolive]

I have never in my 30 years heard a jew make excuses like that...have you? or is this just rhetoric?

You gotta be fucking dumb blind and deaf to not have heard that excuse...or you're just lying. Ill take the second one.

[LastRites]

Every successful jew i know has gotten to where they are by working hard in school and then in their proffession.
So have I. These are not the Jews Im talking about. You wouldnt be even in the same school as the kid from the Rothschilds family for example.

[weknowhowtolive]

HAhahahahahahahaa...WHAT?!? Tell me that you have acctually heard a Jew say that!! You are fucking lying man. Thats straight bullshit.

Ive heard jews use the holocaust for pity, ive heard black people use slavery for pity, ive heard methed up crackhead white trailer trash use bullshit excuses for their living situation...EVERY race, every class, every religion has excuses and bullshit. For jews, it happens to be thousands of years of oppression

[Vitnir]

Actually, my Jewesh side of the family, most of it, were respected in their local community in Russia BECAUSE they never made excuses, worked hard and helped a lot of people, who's faith didn't shine on them, along the way too. The local paper even written an article about my Grampa as being a great ingeneer and war hero, whom inspite losing his fingers after 2.5 months in Stalingrad managed to become an engeneer. He never asked for favours, inspite the phantom limb pain and being barely able to hold a ruler in his hands. He'd also volunteer teaching kids math and physcics.

[Argyleskin]

Mmm mmm mmm mm..thats check mate folks.

Agree.
The thing is I know poor fucking Jews..they're families had rich connections but chose not to ask for favors. They are poor because they are poor, not because the white/black/red man didn't give them enough to help with their guilt of Hitler..
Honestly each grouping...blacks..whites...Asians..Hispanics have some who succeed and some who do not. You and I are both Jewish by our parents and not religion, according to some we should be on easy street. Hey Jeremy how about we find some way to collect bank for our families being killed 60+years ago? Sound good..we'll then take over NBC and make it porn only. That's abobut how absurd this "Jews get it for free" shit is. Every person works hard to achieve what they have. The only difference is the level of "hard" they work. Some may say being on welfare and doing nothing is working hard, some might say 100+ hours a week in a mill is hard..but the thing is where the fuck are these folks willing to hand out the bucks to us cause we got some "itz" or "x's" at the end of our names?
And who the fuck would do that? Bah.

[Loathe]

Hello its called there's zero proof that the jews were ever enslaved unless you believe the bible.

-edit-

Funny how whenever someone brings up a point, you make a joke...its like your little way of avoiding being wrong. Except you're still wrong.

Thats not true man, it's historically proven that the jews were enslaved by the Egyptians. Thats not just some made up shit man.

[Vitnir]

So have I. These are not the Jews Im talking about. You wouldnt be even in the same school as the kid from the Rothschilds family for example.
Dude! Not every Jewesh kid goes to some rich private school! Come here, 97% of all students go to to public schools and Israeli public schools are the most utter shite. Yet some of them, who don't neglect their studies, actually become something.

[LastRites]

I have never in my 30 years heard a jew make excuses like that...have you? or is this just rhetoric?
You wont hear such excuses on an individual level. We are talking politics and things that influence or shape the way all people think. Educational books in school, government laws specializing in anti-semitism...those are the persecution cards that are being mentioned. No other group on this planet has such strict laws which forbids anything negative towards them.
You dont have ant-black laws....no anti-asian laws...they are all summed up in hatelaws in general....but anti-semitic alone laws exist. Can you explain this for me?

[weknowhowtolive]

Agree.
The thing is I know poor fucking Jews..they're families had rich connections but chose not to ask for favors. They are poor because they are poor, not because the white/black/red man didn't give them enough to help with their guilt of Hitler..
Honestly each grouping...blacks..whites...Asians..Hispanics have some who succeed and some who do not. You and I are both Jewish by our parents and not religion, according to some we should be on easy street. Hey Jeremy how about we find some way to collect bank for our families being killed 60+years ago? Sound good..we'll then take over NBC and make it porn only. That's abobut how absurd this "Jews get it for free" shit is. Every person works hard to achieve what they have. The only difference is the level of "hard" they work. Some may say being on welfare and doing nothing is working hard, some might say 100+ hours a week in a mill is hard..but the thing is where the fuck are these folks willing to hand out the bucks to us cause we got some "itz" or "x's" at the end of our names?
And who the fuck would do that? Bah.

I havent seen anyone say jews get shit for free. I sure as hell havent been saying that. But anyway, im done with this thread...ive met thousands of jews and made my mind up about them.

[LastRites]

Dude! Not every Jewesh kid goes to some rich private school! Come here, 97% of all students go to to public schools and Israeli public schools are the most utter shite. Yet some of them, who don't neglect their studies, actually become something.
Read the bottom portion of post # 75 in this thread.

[Blue Blood]

Media Control?
The link i'm going to put up LISTS all the major media outlets in our country.It also states who operates these media companies.

This link is from National Vanguard,if a mod has a problem with it,(and I know this can be an issue)please delete it.It is NOT offensive(language,content),as anyone who has visited NV knows.

Who Rules America has been around as a piece for quite a while,originally produced by Dr.Pierce's National Alliance.

Everything in this piece is documented,nothing is 'WP' one-sided BS,as many of those sites can be.Anyway..

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=4231

[weknowhowtolive]

Thats not true man, it's historically proven that the jews were enslaved by the Egyptians. Thats not just some made up shit man.

Phhttt im sure they were, just like im sure every other people's that got near egypt had people enslaved. I was saying ALL jews werent enslaved in egypt, some held high up positions and had big money trades/business

[Dawgnuts]

I havent seen anyone say jews get shit for free. I sure as hell havent been saying that. But anyway, im done with this thread...ive met thousands of jews and made my mind up about them.


You've MET thousands of jews, huge difference in KNOWING someone and meeting them.

And bullshit you have met thousands of jews.

[thisistheuproar]

Oh shit, I should also add in here somewhere that I just went to Half Price Books, and I found and bought a book called "A Rumor About the Jews: Antisemitism, Conspiracy, and the Protocols of Zion". It refutes the validity of The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (an antisemitic pamphlet that has since proven to be a forgery), and then traces how the pamphlet has continued to fuel antisemitism in Western culture and the far right.

It's pretty short, so I'll probably finish it at work tonight. Wednesdays are slow at the job.

[LastRites]

Oh shit, I should also add in here somewhere that I just went to Half Price Books, and I found and bought a book called "A Rumor About the Jews: Antisemitism, Conspiracy, and the Protocols of Zion". It refutes the validity of The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion (an antisemitic pamphlet that has since proven to be a forgery), and then traces how the pamphlet has continued to fuel antisemitism in Western culture and the far right.

It's pretty short, so I'll probably finish it at work tonight. Wednesdays are slow at the job.
Its pretty interesting. Even though a forgery...still a good read.
Here is the link
http://reactor-core.org/international-jew.html# (http://reactor-core.org/international-jew.html#article4)

[Dutch Raven]

I don't hate jews.

I hate zionists and whiny jews (like coloured people and slavery = jews and the holocaust).

[Loathe]

Yo belive me...If I could walk into a bank right now and say "hitler hurt my feelings" and get a bunch of bread, I would! But it doesnt happen. It hasnt happend. And it wont happen. I make a shit load of money and have a nice house, why??? because I worked my fucking ass of to get it. I got out of prison, put myself through college, got a job. I have never made excuses or used the hard times in my life as a crutch. I have never heard any person in my family make excuses or use hard times as a crutch. If you sit in a trailer park or your parents house, talking about how fucked up it is that the jews got it all..go get a fucking job, go get an education, and get your peice of the pie. Free market capatalism bitchs..it's what makes our country great.


Im must spread some blood on my front door before I can give you any umm, burning bushes or some shit.

[Argyleskin]

(like coloured people and slavery = jews and the holocaust).


Damn, you need to come to the USA, go down south and say "Why yes colored person I would indeed love the collared greens and bacon.."

Seriously dude I realize your in another country but "colored" isn't what one would call PC..or even nice.

[King of all Buffets]

I don't hate jews.

I hate zionists and whiny jews (like coloured people and slavery = jews and the holocaust).

I also hate 2 kinds of people.

1. People intolerent of other peoples cultures

2......and the Dutch.

:biggrin:

[Blue Blood]

Damn, you need to come to the USA, go down south and say "Why yes colored person I would indeed love the collared greens and bacon.."

Seriously dude I realize your in another country but "colored" isn't what one would call PC..or even nice.

Wait a cotton-picking minute!:biggrin:
What about the NAACP,eh?
AHA!

[Dutch Raven]

Damn, you need to come to the USA, go down south and say "Why yes colored person I would indeed love the collared greens and bacon.."

Seriously dude I realize your in another country but "colored" isn't what one would call PC..or even nice.

Fuck that! I'm not calling anybody an 'African American'!
In my book 'coloured' is better than 'black'. But it's going to be one of those two. You damn European American!

I also hate 2 kinds of people.

1. People intolerent of other peoples cultures

2......and the Dutch.

:biggrin:

Hehehehee.

[weknowhowtolive]

You've MET thousands of jews, huge difference in KNOWING someone and meeting them.

And bullshit you have met thousands of jews.

First impresions do a lot. You tellin me you've never judged someone just from meeting them? I highly doubt that.

And no its not bullshit, I did bar and bat mitzvahs for close to 4 years, 1-2 a week with an average of 200-300 people there. I know all the words to hadvah Nagila (sp?) by heart. I met at least a quarter of them. And as i said, most of them were pretty nice, generous people.

[Argyleskin]

JEWS STINK!!!
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/jeremythejew/az1.jpg

Why do you hate America and the Jews that run it?
I'm going to release a WSN press release on how you must be stopped and your plans to corrupt all the women,foiled! You will not spread your hard working, good features and strong family background HERE I tell you!
Um..and go back to Israel...Jewy.

[Packratt]

So have I. These are not the Jews Im talking about. You wouldnt be even in the same school as the kid from the Rothschilds family for example.

Again we go back to my question. What makes all rich jewish people any different than rich people from other backgrounds?

Yeah, I would never be able to send my kids to the same school as the Rothschilds, nor would I be able to send them to the same school as the Bush kids nor Gate's children. I can't live in those gated communities either.

[Mimi]

Jew hatred, like most all hatred, is based on personal failure. It's easy to blame others - I say cast the first stone if you have the balls to call yourself sinless. Me, I'm not that shallow.

[weknowhowtolive]

Just say it, We know what you're thinking...your thinking...JEWS STINK!!!

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1/jeremythejew/az1.jpg

I did meet one stinky fat rabbi...

[LastRites]

Again we go back to my question. What makes all rich jewish people any different than rich people from other backgrounds?

The idea.
Throughout history rich families influenced a nations finances and politics.
And I say the idea because Jews without a homeland could only be doing this in someone elses home.
It is no different than what the Iraqis think of Bush. It would be no different if Gates tried to influence the government of Chile. Chileans would be pissed at Gates. Because these people are not their own...these people have no business in their home telling everyone what to think and do. And because Jews are loyal to eachother...having Jews in Germany, Holland and Danemark....brings everyone to one conclusion. They do it to benefit themselves not the individual country "the host" they operate from. Conspiracies are born from such thinking....but are true to an extent in my opinion. Global ideas such as Communism is a good example. Started out in Germany, financed from Switzerland...yet fully operational in Russia. The people behind it..or the key figures? - all of Jewish descent.

[LastRites]

Dear Mimi,
Shut the fuck up.
Love,
Jeremy
Hahaha...

[Mimi]

Love you too sweetheart.

Dear Mimi,
Shut the fuck up.
Love,
Jeremy

[LastRites]

Dear Last Rights,
Shut the fuck up with your propaganda.
Best wishes,
Jeremy
Dear Santa, this Christmass I wish for...
* world peace
* jeremythejew to spell my name correctly and prove me wrong
* a new car

[Mimi]

Ha, ha, ha, ha....

Dear Santa, this Christmass I wish for...
* world peace
* jeremythejew to spell my name correctly and prove me wrong
* a new car

[Loathe]

The idea.
Throughout history rich families influenced a nations finances and politics.
And I say the idea because Jews without a homeland could only be doing this in someone elses home.
It is no different than what the Iraqis think of Bush. It would be no different if Gates tried to influence the government of Chile. Chileans would be pissed at Gates. Because these people are not their own...these people have no business in their home telling everyone what to think and do. And because Jews are loyal to eachother...having Jews in Germany, Holland and Danemark....brings everyone to one conclusion. They do it to benefit themselves not the individual country "the host" they operate from. Conspiracies are born from such thinking....but are true to an extent in my opinion. Global ideas such as Communism is a good example. Started out in Germany, financed from Switzerland...yet fully operational in Russia. The people behind it..or the key figures? - all of Jewish descent.

Gates and his company are in major trouble with the EU right now becaus eof unfair business practices. He's not a jew.

The figures behind communism were all jews? I am sure that the millions of Jews that dies in russian gulogs will be glad to hear that.

[Packratt]

Dear Santa, this Christmass I wish for...
* world peace
* jeremythejew to spell my name correctly and prove me wrong
* a new car

That's the great thing about conspiracy theories... They are based on unproveable assumptions that, because they are supposedly clandestine, cannot be proved right or wrong.

Seriously though, are you suggesting that the use of wealth to purchase power and influence is an idea belonging exclusively to jewish people?

Such activities are as old as government and money and have never been the exclusively trademarked idea of any culture.

Again, what's the difference between a wealthy jewish person and a wealthy person of any other lineage who buys influece for their own benefit and enrichment?

[grouchybastid]

Again we go back to my question. What makes all rich jewish people any different than rich people from other backgrounds?

Yeah, I would never be able to send my kids to the same school as the Rothschilds, nor would I be able to send them to the same school as the Bush kids nor Gate's children. I can't live in those gated communities either.

good point.

It's not just a good point
it's THE point


And just for the record, I don't see how "Jewish" can be considered a race or ethnicity. A heritage, yes. A culture, maybe yes. A race or ethnicity, I don't see it....basically because a person can convert to Judaism, one cannot convert to being Asian or Hispanic or whatever.

[Argyleskin]

It's not just a good point
it's THE point


And just for the record, I don't see how "Jewish" can be considered a race or ethnicity. A heritage, yes. A culture, maybe yes. A race or ethnicity, I don't see it....basically because a person can convert to Judaism, one cannot convert to being Asian or Hispanic or whatever.

Don't be race hatin' on me grouchy.
I'm going to go get some extra money for this. I feel hurt.
Hehehe

[Packratt]

its true oprah said so hah

Oh shit... well, if Oprah says it that's a different matter entirely.

[Loathe]

Prove you wrong. I have been running circles around you. You really want me to argue with you? Even if your right...so what? We rule! We carry diamonds under our hats!! We own the media and hip hop and the mother fucking jewelry trade. It's all about the benjamins baby..it's all about the benjamins.

don't forget the gold in a bag around your neck.

[Loathe]

Honestly, and I know that WBC and Swifty are going to hate on me for this, how can ANYONE claim to be of a specific race?

Take the Irish. Invaded multiple times by different peoples, hell the Celts weren't even the first on the island, they displaced the firbolgs (the race not the fairies), they (we) interbred with people from northern europe, people from spain, people from france, people from all over the fucking place.

The Chinese, Japanese and Koreans all had so many fucking wars that they are almost the same race at this point.

The indians in Canada were way different than the indians from south america and they ended up interbreeding in the middle eventualy.

Christ, vikings came to Canada and interbred long before what most people talk about.

Cultural and nationalistic differences I can understand, but this race shit is rediculous.

[LastRites]

Gates and his company are in major trouble with the EU right now becaus eof unfair business practices. He's not a jew.

The figures behind communism were all jews? I am sure that the millions of Jews that dies in russian gulogs will be glad to hear that.
Try reading what I wrote earlier. In my opinion, Jews have created and/or financed organizations and political ideologies such as UN, EU and anything that relates to the unification of nations, cultures, etc. as long as Israel is not included.

[grouchybastid]

Don't be race hatin' on me grouchy.
I'm going to go get some extra money for this. I feel hurt.
Hehehe

Heh. If I say I'm reeeeeeal sorry, can I get some $$ too? My great-grandmother was a Jew!

(no really. Lithuanian Jew.)

[grouchybastid]

Honestly, and I know that WBC and Swifty are going to hate on me for this, how can ANYONE claim to be of a specific race?

Take the Irish. Invaded multiple times by different peoples, hell the Celts weren't even the first on the island, they displaced the firbolgs (the race not the fairies), they (we) interbred with people from northern europe, people from spain, people from france, people from all over the fucking place.

The Chinese, Japanese and Koreans all had so many fucking wars that they are almost the same race at this point.

The indians in Canada were way different than the indians from south america and they ended up interbreeding in the middle eventualy.

Christ, vikings came to Canada and interbred long before what most people talk about.

Cultural and nationalistic differences I can understand, but this race shit is rediculous.

Rep for dropping bombs of science. Damn straight.

[Loathe]

Try reading what I wrote earlier. In my opinion, Jews have created and/or financed organizations and political ideologies such as UN, EU and anything that relates to the unification of nations, cultures, etc. as long as Israel is not included.

So have whites and blacks and asians whats your point?

[LastRites]

Again, what's the difference between a wealthy jewish person and a wealthy person of any other lineage who buys influece for their own benefit and enrichment?
I've already answered it.
The last two presidents of Poland = Jewish. Changed their last names...said they fight for the Poles...yet in reality...their agenda is pro-Israel in the end. Multiply this scenario by a few hundred in every country and you get your answer. Jews differ from a regular white rich or powerful dudes by the idea they stand for. Im not saying that Id rather have a selfish rich white folk running the show, thats absolutely not what Im saying. Im just pointing out how the Jews in such positions use the people/nation as their host for their Jewish insterests. Your question came from after the word "parasite" was mentioned. It is why they were expelled hundreds of years ago. Maybe it is why Bill Gates is charged....because other Jewish monopolies dont see a gentile as an ally to their cause of world politics.

[LastRites]

So have whites and blacks and asians whats your point?
Ive made my point...if youre asking me questions try to be more specific than one liners.

[King of all Buffets]

I've already answered it.
The last two presidents of Poland = Jewish. Changed their last names...said they fight for the Poles...yet in reality...their agenda is pro-Israel in the end. Multiply this scenario by a few hundred in every country and you get your answer. Jews differ from a regular white rich or powerful dudes by the idea they stand for. Im not saying that Id rather have a selfish rich white folk running the show, thats absolutely not what Im saying. Im just pointing out how the Jews in such positions use the people/nation as their host for their Jewish insterests. Your question came from after the word "parasite" was mentioned. It is why they were expelled hundreds of years ago. Maybe it is why Bill Gates is charged....because other Jewish monopolies dont see a gentile as an ally to their cause of world politics.

Policticions of evey nationality have changed their names to something that will not put off the massess. In the U.S Latino politicians change there names to more white sounding ones to get more votes......does that mean that its some latino conspiracy?

[LastRites]

Honestly, and I know that WBC and Swifty are going to hate on me for this, how can ANYONE claim to be of a specific race?

Take the Irish. Invaded multiple times by different peoples, hell the Celts weren't even the first on the island, they displaced the firbolgs (the race not the fairies), they (we) interbred with people from northern europe, people from spain, people from france, people from all over the fucking place.

The Chinese, Japanese and Koreans all had so many fucking wars that they are almost the same race at this point.

The indians in Canada were way different than the indians from south america and they ended up interbreeding in the middle eventualy.

Christ, vikings came to Canada and interbred long before what most people talk about.

Cultural and nationalistic differences I can understand, but this race shit is rediculous.

Irish, Japanese, Koreans....those are nationalities or cultures...not races.

[LastRites]

Policticions of evey nationality have changed their names to something that will not put off the massess. In the U.S Latino politicians change there names to more white sounding ones to get more votes......does that mean that its some latino conspiracy?
You tell me why they changed their last name. Maybe becasue a good % of white folk aint going to bother reading the political platform of Mr.Rodriguez. and automatically sign up at Mr.Smith's booth. I dunno...you tell me.

[Loathe]

Irish, Japanese, Koreans....those are nationalities or cultures...not races.

So what race are you?

What race am I?

What race is Sabby or Jeremy?

Seeing as Judaism is a religion, and has member sof every color under the sun what race are they?

What are the different races? Can you define them?

What race are my (Irish, Hispanic and Indian) sons?

What race is Bound Fo Glory, he's a half-breed?

You sir are talking about color. Skin pigmentation. you say you have made your point, btu I haven't heard anything other than conspiracy theories.

You claimed earlier that the Jews helped start communism, well so did Henry Ford and he had no love for jews.

So again, what is the point you are trying to make here?

[grouchybastid]

Irish, Japanese, Koreans....those are nationalities or cultures...not races.

Wait, so Jewish *is* a race?? Maybe we need some clarification on terminology here.

[edit]Damn, Loathe beat me to it again.

[Argyleskin]

Lastrites now correct me if I am wrong (and please do because sometimes I read shit wrong) but you are saying you do not hate "all" jews. That there are some "good" jews and you have no problem with "those jews"? Correct?

That being said if in fact that is what your saying then you are not a Nazi by the classification many of us have by it. You are simply a man who hates the rich who happen to sometimes be Jewish. You fail to see there are many catholics and christians in power that have not been swayed by the jewish dollar/diamond/media. Is it wrong to say that perhaps IF they were swayed they were swayed not by money but by knowledge? Is it also fair to assume that due to the ability to create vast amounts of money, hard work in fields they excel in that jews could be considered incredibly smart people..on a whole mind you?

Now..is it not possible there is a little green going through your blood. Not so much the lust for money but the lust for the power you so detest that you believe they have? Would you not like to own larger things such as corporations? To be able to tell others what to do appeals to alot of people, to control things that impact the lives of everyone...a wet dream at one time of every person.

You cannot say to me only jews do this..only blacks do that..or the majority SEEM to be jews..etc..That's not the case. Jews do not hold as much power as perhaps they did at one time. The logic of hating a group I have more understanding of then reasoning away the hatred of only a certain percentage of one group who deserve what they have because they worked hard for it.

[thisistheuproar]

So what race are you?

What race am I?

What race is Sabby or Jeremy?

Seeing as Judaism is a religion, and has member sof every color under the sun what race are they?

What are the different races? Can you define them?

What race are my (Irish, Hispanic and Indian) sons?

What race is Bound Fo Glory, he's a half-breed?

You sir are talking about color. Skin pigmentation. you say you have made your point, btu I haven't heard anything other than conspiracy theories.

You claimed earlier that the Jews helped start communism, well so did Henry Ford and he had no love for jews.

So again, what is the point you are trying to make here?

Science has gone to great lengths and has made a lot of recent discoveries supporting the idea that race is just a social construction.

And I agree 100% with it.

"Jewish-ness" is a religion and a culture, def not a race.

[King of all Buffets]

You tell me why they changed their last name. Maybe becasue a good % of white folk aint going to bother reading the political platform of Mr.Rodriguez. and automatically sign up at Mr.Smith's booth. I dunno...you tell me.

Yes thats what I am saying...its an attempt to blend in....not the root of some of some vast conspiracy.

[Professor]

I have never in my 30 years heard a jew make excuses like that...have you? or is this just rhetoric?

you will hear it when you cross one, intentionally or accidentally.

an example (true story, aside from minor changes to protect certain people who may or may not post here):

two co-workers, different departments, one jewish (mostly stereotypical), one just a regular guy, race doesn't factor into his role. for argument's sake, we'll say he's Japanese.

the jewish guy gets hired after the Japanese guy although he is completely unqualified for the job, and as it soon turns out, he is actually incompetent in his job capacities. the Japanese guy has to pick up the jewish guy's slack and actually has to do the jewish guy's job for him, in addition to his own concerns. the Japanese guy complains to his higher-ups and is told to do his own job and nothing more. the jewish guy gets a little miffed at this turn of events and starts badmouthing the Japanese guy, asking if any other co-workers have a problem with the Japanese guy, telling them he doesn't do his job and so forth, all the time putting on the second face of the Japanese guy's very good friend.

now, there's a predicament. the Japanese guy has been a valuable asset to the organization for years, and the jewish guy isn't pulling his weight. the Japanese guy isn't going anywhere. he likes his job, his co-workers, but ther is now tension. if the jewish guy gets fired (which he should be), he will most certainly pull that 'jewish oppression' card and a lawsuit because he is one of those 'regular' jews who enjoys flaunting the jewishness in everyone's face. this is a man who once got quite offended and went into a tirade about 5000 years of jews being oppressed when another co-worker told him to enjoy his christmas break.

i believe that there are a lot of jews that feed the stereotype so that they can continue to be 'oppressed'. it's a self-fulfilling circle for them.

and again, this does not reflect on all jews, as i have friends and co-workers who you wouldn't know were jewish unless you asked.

[weknowhowtolive]

Damn Pete...you're a racist.

[Professor]

Damn Pete...you're a racist.

damn right i'm racist.....i hate the human race. it doesn't matter what color.

[pxscooterskin]

Professor - I've seen that card played/threatened by blacks, lesbians and the disabled. It's not a race/lesbian etc thing. It's down to the individual being a shit.

[weknowhowtolive]

Professor - I've seen that card played/threatened by blacks, lesbians and the disabled. It's not a race/lesbian etc thing. It's down to the individual being a shit.

Doesnt negate the fact that jews DO use it for/like that.

[Professor]

Professor - I've seen that card played/threatened by blacks, lesbians and the disabled. It's not a race/lesbian etc thing. It's down to the individual being a shit.

i know, but the topic was jews, so i stuck with that. that's why i followed it up with the other thing.....i really do hate people.

besides, the fact that 'minorities' are allowed to play with loaded dice doesn't make it right. ancient history is to be learned from, not used as a crutch.

[pxscooterskin]

Doesnt negate the fact that jews DO use it for/like that.

True . Just pointing out it isn't restricted to one group. And it's usually the laziest, good for nothing shit that has no pride in themselves or their 'group' that tends to use it.

i know, but the topic was jews, so i stuck with that. that's why i followed it up with the other thing.....i really do hate people.

Agreed...

[Packratt]

you will hear it when you cross one, intentionally or accidentally.

an example (true story, aside from minor changes to protect certain people who may or may not post here):

two co-workers, different departments, one jewish (mostly stereotypical), one just a regular guy, race doesn't factor into his role. for argument's sake, we'll say he's Japanese.

the jewish guy gets hired after the Japanese guy although he is completely unqualified for the job, and as it soon turns out, he is actually incompetent in his job capacities. the Japanese guy has to pick up the jewish guy's slack and actually has to do the jewish guy's job for him, in addition to his own concerns. the Japanese guy complains to his higher-ups and is told to do his own job and nothing more. the jewish guy gets a little miffed at this turn of events and starts badmouthing the Japanese guy, asking if any other co-workers have a problem with the Japanese guy, telling them he doesn't do his job and so forth, all the time putting on the second face of the Japanese guy's very good friend.

now, there's a predicament. the Japanese guy has been a valuable asset to the organization for years, and the jewish guy isn't pulling his weight. the Japanese guy isn't going anywhere. he likes his job, his co-workers, but ther is now tension. if the jewish guy gets fired (which he should be), he will most certainly pull that 'jewish oppression' card and a lawsuit because he is one of those 'regular' jews who enjoys flaunting the jewishness in everyone's face. this is a man who once got quite offended and went into a tirade about 5000 years of jews being oppressed when another co-worker told him to enjoy his christmas break.

i believe that there are a lot of jews that feed the stereotype so that they can continue to be 'oppressed'. it's a self-fulfilling circle for them.

and again, this does not reflect on all jews, as i have friends and co-workers who you wouldn't know were jewish unless you asked.

i know, but the topic was jews, so i stuck with that. that's why i followed it up with the other thing.....i really do hate people.

besides, the fact that 'minorities' are allowed to play with loaded dice doesn't make it right. ancient history is to be learned from, not used as a crutch.

You're not really making a point here... In fact, I see this as countering the point since you're stating that all jewish people don't partake in what you've described as jewish behaviour.

It almost sounded like you wanted to tell as story about an individual jew as if you were attributing that to all jews but still avoid shit for doing that by saying it's not how all jews act. Maybe that's not what you intended, but that's what it's coming across like.

As for hating the human race...

Well, I've always found that hate requires a bit of effort, so much effort in fact that I have found that only a few people who are worthy of that kind of devoted attention. So, I tend to treat a large portion of the human race with purposeful indifference and reserve hatered for those few individuals who have done something to deserve it.

(But hey, to each their own crutch.)

[Martina]

the Jewish community is close knitt because of the anti-semitism they have received....its really a "chicken came before the egg" arguement

YOU ARE ALWAYS SO FULL OF SHIT.
Why must you always resort to the 'white guilt' mentality.

Historicaly jews have centered their personal idenity and culture around their race. It's not like some god damn AA meeting where they share their experiences.

[Loathe]

YOU ARE ALWAYS SO FULL OF SHIT.
Why must you always resort to the 'white guilt' mentality.

Historicaly jews have centered their personal idenity and culture around their race. It's not like some god damn AA meeting where they share their experiences.

What's really funny is that I didn't realize that was InkedCanadian until he got all whiney in this thread.

[weknowhowtolive]

YOU ARE ALWAYS SO FULL OF SHIT.
Why must you always resort to the 'white guilt' mentality.

Historicaly jews have centered their personal idenity and culture around their race. It's not like some god damn AA meeting where they share their experiences.

Shaun messaged me on myspace and i told him i was jewish and he asked why i didnt say so in the thread. I thought that was interesting. (hope you dont mind me saying, shaun.) That was kind of my point from the very beginning of this thread.

[Professor]

You're not really making a point here... In fact, I see this as countering the point since you're stating that all jewish people don't partake in what you've described as jewish behaviour.

It almost sounded like you wanted to tell as story about an individual jew as if you were attributing that to all jews but still avoid shit for doing that by saying it's not how all jews act. Maybe that's not what you intended, but that's what it's coming across like.

As for hating the human race...

Well, I've always found that hate requires a bit of effort, so much effort in fact that I have found that only a few people who are worthy of that kind of devoted attention. So, I tend to treat a large portion of the human race with purposeful indifference and reserve hatered for those few individuals who have done something to deserve it.

(But hey, to each their own crutch.)

but...but i just wanted to participate.......

damn, man, rain on a man's newfound liberation from the oppression of skindergarden, why don't you....sheesh.....

[Martina]

I have never in my 30 years heard a jew make excuses like that...have you? or is this just rhetoric?

Not everything has to be taken verbatim.

It's not uncommon for jews to use the holocaust and the murder of millions of jews to excuse the fact that marrying outside their community is wrong and will futher deminish their race.

[Packratt]

but...but i just wanted to participate.......

damn, man, rain on a man's newfound liberation from the oppression of skindergarden, why don't you....sheesh.....

Yeah, that's me... the fluffy raincloud of WSNland.

[Argyleskin]

Yo, white guilt is for suckers. And Jews dont need anyone felling sorry for them. And no Jews get together with other Jews and talk aobut how ruff they have it. Where do you guys come up with this shit.

Seinfeld

[weknowhowtolive]

Have you ever heard a Jew use the holocaust to excuse anything?? I mean you personally.

Ive never heard them use it as an excuse, i hope i didnt say that. Ive heard them use it for pity, thats it. I dont know how you could use it as an excuse.

[Argyleskin]

Ive never heard them use it as an excuse, i hope i didnt say that. Ive heard them use it for pity, thats it. I dont know how you could use it as an excuse.

The ONLY time I've used any personal shit about the holocaust in everyday life was ths one time a few guys were joking about putting someone in an oven...doing it "old school" or some stupid shit. I said straightfaced I had family die in ovens and walked out of the room. I hope they feel bad, they were acting like fucktards. You don't run around with a rope talking about lynching folks for shits and giggles..why would you chuckle about burning people alive? It's not a "pity" card it's a "What the fuck is wrong with you check.."

[Martina]

Honestly, and I know that WBC and Swifty are going to hate on me for this, how can ANYONE claim to be of a specific race?

Take the Irish. Invaded multiple times by different peoples, hell the Celts weren't even the first on the island, they displaced the firbolgs (the race not the fairies), they (we) interbred with people from northern europe, people from spain, people from france, people from all over the fucking place.

The Chinese, Japanese and Koreans all had so many fucking wars that they are almost the same race at this point.

The indians in Canada were way different than the indians from south america and they ended up interbreeding in the middle eventualy.

Christ, vikings came to Canada and interbred long before what most people talk about.

Cultural and nationalistic differences I can understand, but this race shit is rediculous.


Spain, France ect- it's all still white people. Threfore (for lack of a better discription) the 'race is still pure'.
I don't need to go back a 100 generations to claim that I'm white.
Acknowledging one's race doesn't mean that you are oppressing another.
Unless someone is actually mixed, most people idenify themselfs with ONE race.

[Packratt]

Not everything has to be taken verbatim.

It's not uncommon for jews to use the holocaust and the murder of millions of jews to excuse the fact that marrying outside their community is wrong and will futher deminish their race.

Gee... I never heard people from other backgrounds say stuff about diminishing their race... Oh, wait a sec. maybe just once or twice.:rolleyes:

Ive never heard them use it as an excuse, i hope i didnt say that. Ive heard them use it for pity, thats it. I dont know how you could use it as an excuse.

Yeah, and I've never seen a person of any other background try to get a pity party for something either.:rolleyes:

[Martina]

Have you ever heard a Jew use the holocaust to excuse anything?? I mean you personally.

I had jewish friends in highschool that weren't allowed to date non-jews. I can't remember if they related it to the holocaust or not. It does still relate to my original point though.

I also had a jewish friend who's family 'disowned' his Uncle because he joined 'Jews for Jesus'.

Clearly, there is a disire within their community to preserve their race.
It may not be asbolute- nothing is but it's there.

[Loathe]

Spain, France ect- it's all still white people. Threfore (for lack of a better discription) the 'race is still pure'.
I don't need to go back a 100 generations to claim that I'm white.
Acknowledging one's race doesn't mean that you are oppressing another.
Unless someone is actually mixed, most people idenify themselfs with ONE race.

So white is a race?

What are the limits to this?

Are Iranians white? Greeks? Italians?

Mexicans?

How do you define white?

To look at my kids you would never know that they have anythign but white blood in them, are they white?

[Loathe]

Spain, France ect- it's all still white people. Threfore (for lack of a better discription) the 'race is still pure'.
I don't need to go back a 100 generations to claim that I'm white.
Acknowledging one's race doesn't mean that you are oppressing another.
Unless someone is actually mixed, most people idenify themselfs with ONE race.

Oh and we haven't even brought the Moorish conquest of Spain into the equation yet, doesn't that make them non-white?

[Martina]

Gee... I never heard people from other backgrounds say stuff about diminishing their race... Oh, wait a sec. maybe just once or twice.:rolleyes:




I never stated that it was unique to the jewish community. My point is that is does exist.

[weknowhowtolive]

Gee... I never heard people from other backgrounds say stuff about diminishing their race... Oh, wait a sec. maybe just once or twice.:rolleyes:



Yeah, and I've never seen a person of any other background try to get a pity party for something either.:rolleyes:

but uhm...i already said that. I said ive heard blacks use slavery, whites make lame excuses, and jews tend to use the holocaust...

[Argyleskin]

I never stated that it was unique to the jewish community. My point is that is does exist.

True but the Amish practice it much stricter then I've heard any family of jews doing it. Take a look at My big fat greek wedding..A greek family not wanting their greek blood corrupted by an outsider.

It's not exclusive to the jews..greeks whoever. But I've heard 100 times more white folks tell their kids or say offhandedly about how they'd die if their kid married a black person or how they'd be disowned.

[Packratt]

I never stated that it was unique to the jewish community. My point is that is does exist.


Yeah, but the point of the thread is to determine how people justify their hatered of jewish people... Thus, I have to sort of wonder if that is the point you were trying to make, that such activity is a valid excuse for that hatered.

If so... Would it be correct to hate all white people because a few want to 'keep their race pure'?

Maybe I should hate the Amish because they don't allow dating outside their community too?