Thoughts on classical music?

[gregtheskin]

Anyone else here like classical music? If so, what's your favorite composer?

I've been into Bach, holst, and mussorgsky as of late.

[grouchybastid]

How can anybody who appreciates good music *not* like classical? Seriously.

Mozart will rule always. Beethoven, Bach, Chopin, Tchaichovsky, Handel...hells yeah.

[Gentle Jones]

mostly it bores me but there are a few pieces of russian stuff that i really like, rachmaninov in particular

don't know enough about music theory and all that to really appreciate the majority of it i guess

[gregtheskin]

mostly it bores me but there are a few pieces of russian stuff that i really like, rachmaninov in particular

don't know enough about music theory and all that to really appreciate the majority of it i guess

You don't have to know shit about theory to appreciate music.

[magnetmaz]

I've been classically trained on piano since i was 5....and i still love to pull out the piano books and play Franz Liszt ( you need enormous hands to play Liszt ), Mozart, Chopin, Bach, Beethoven, and ...though he won't be really included in the annals of 'Classical music' at this time, Scott Joplin ragtime stuff.

[eddie shots]

most pieces dont do a thing for me, but moonlight sonata is a great song.

[gregtheskin]

I've been classically trained on piano since i was 5....and i still love to pull out the piano books and play Franz Liszt ( you need enormous hands to play Liszt ), Mozart, Chopin, Bach, Beethoven, and ...though he won't be really included in the annals of 'Classical music' at this time, Scott Joplin ragtime stuff.

Definately, Both mazart and list had fuckin huge hands. Mozart could do an octive and a fifth if I remember correctly, couldn't he?

[magnetmaz]

You don't have to know shit about theory to appreciate music.

I'll sort of disagree about this.... i'll state that there is a level of appreciation for something that you gain only after you've been trained in music theory.

How can i explain .... it's kind of like Family Guy or Simpsons, right? It's a funny show, and just about everyone can sit down and laugh at it .... HOWEVER there are references made in both of those shows ....pop culture references, references to other episodes ...jokes about commercials or tv shows or whatever .......and you likely won't get every joke on the show unless you understand these ( often obscure ) references.

I majored in Jazz Performance in college for a while, and it really became apparent ( particularly in jazz ) how much OTHER jazz you have to know .... because many artists will pay homage to other jazz standards by including little riffs in their improvisational solos or whatever. You would never pick those up unless you knew the other tune as well.

So, my point is that you'll always derive satisfaction and enjoyment from your appreciation of these types of music, but you might not be aware that there's a whole level you don't really get to appreciate until you're trained.

-Eric

[Gentle Jones]

You don't have to know shit about theory to appreciate music.


yeah you're right, guess the point i was making was that if i had more of an academic background i might appreciate more of it than i do (as i only like a little of it)

[Gentle Jones]

I majored in Jazz Performance in college for a while

interesting. and it looks like you made my point while i was typing away, thanks.

[gregtheskin]

I'll sort of disagree about this.... i'll state that there is a level of appreciation for something that you gain only after you've been trained in music theory.

How can i explain .... it's kind of like Family Guy or Simpsons, right? It's a funny show, and just about everyone can sit down and laugh at it .... HOWEVER there are references made in both of those shows ....pop culture references, references to other episodes ...jokes about commercials or tv shows or whatever .......and you likely won't get every joke on the show unless you understand these ( often obscure ) references.

I majored in Jazz Performance in college for a while, and it really became apparent ( particularly in jazz ) how much OTHER jazz you have to know .... because many artists will pay homage to other jazz standards by including little riffs in their improvisational solos or whatever. You would never pick those up unless you knew the other tune as well.

So, my point is that you'll always derive satisfaction and enjoyment from your appreciation of these types of music, but you might not be aware that there's a whole level you don't really get to appreciate until you're trained.

-Eric

I guess I was saying it in a more general reference. Though yes, i played jazz trumpet for 8 years. And I do know what you mean about using riffs from songs in improv.

Lately i've been listening to a lot of bachs organ works. Do you like them?

[magnetmaz]

I guess I was saying it in a more general reference. Though yes, i played jazz trumpet for 8 years. And I do know what you mean about using riffs from songs in improv.

Lately i've been listening to a lot of bachs organ works. Do you like them?

I used to play a lot of the Toccata and Fugue kinda stuff.... but it's like a whole different ballgame between me playing it on the piano and some fucker playing it on some massive pipe organ with 4 manuals, 2 sets of pedal manuals, and full pull-stops and everything. It's equivelent to me playing eddie van halen riffs on a uekelele.

I have a whole bunch of Pipe Organ stuff on Vinyl, but i'll admit i really enjoy PLAYING classical rather than listening to it.

[gregtheskin]

I used to play a lot of the Toccata and Fugue kinda stuff.... but it's like a whole different ballgame between me playing it on the piano and some fucker playing it on some massive pipe organ with 4 manuals, 2 sets of pedal manuals, and full pull-stops and everything. It's equivelent to me playing eddie van halen riffs on a uekelele.

I have a whole bunch of Pipe Organ stuff on Vinyl, but i'll admit i really enjoy PLAYING classical rather than listening to it.

Yeah, I got to play toccata and fugue on the local colleges pipe organ a few times. Definately a lot of fun. I think it has 1600 pipes on it. It's massive and a lot of fun. Did you play organ for a bit or something?

[grouchybastid]

Yeah, I got to play toccata and fugue on the local colleges pipe organ a few times. Definately a lot of fun. I think it has 1600 pipes on it. It's massive and a lot of fun. Did you play organ for a bit or something?

Holy crap, that must be something else. Earthshaking stuff. :eek:

Me, I played viola in a string orchestra back in school (I know, I know...viola, the redheaded stepchild of the orchestra) so I'll agree that playing the stuff is more fun than listening to it. Still great stuff to listen to tho.

[magnetmaz]

Yeah, I got to play toccata and fugue on the local colleges pipe organ a few times. Definately a lot of fun. I think it has 1600 pipes on it. It's massive and a lot of fun. Did you play organ for a bit or something?

I owned a 1939 Hammond BC for a while...2 manuals, 2 tone generators, and a full 2 octave pedal board... but it's not quite the same thing, now is it? Never played on a full pipe setup.

[gregtheskin]

Holy crap, that must be something else. Earthshaking stuff. :eek:

Me, I played viola in a string orchestra back in school (I know, I know...viola, the redheaded stepchild of the orchestra) so I'll agree that playing the stuff is more fun than listening to it. Still great stuff to listen to tho.

I don't know about earthshaking, but you definately feel powerful for some stange reason. If you've never seen a large pipe organ played live, i'd recomend seeing it. Well worth it.

[caspar]

How can anybody who appreciates good music *not* like classical? Seriously.

Mozart will rule always. Beethoven, Bach, Chopin, Tchaichovsky, Handel...hells yeah.

What he said.

It's a really good way to de-stress and just kinda mellow out.

[gregtheskin]

http://www.csuchico.edu/mus/organ/organs.htm

Here's the organ i've played on.

[WH Jay]

Anyone else here like classical music? If so, what's your favorite composer?



Wagner.....followed by Bach....

[Chicagoskin]

i'm opening a can of worms here, but there is this one opera song. i can't for the life of me ever, remember what it's called...

[magnetmaz]

i'm opening a can of worms here, but there is this one opera song. i can't for the life of me ever, remember what it's called...

You're going to have to narrow it down, ponch. What's the subject of the opera ? That might help....

[Chicagoskin]

well since it's all howling in a foreign language, i can't... it's a woman, probably a fat one...

[Johnny Rebel]

Ride of the Valkyrie

[Acari Rotter]

I'm saving classical music for my old age.

[magnetmaz]

Ride of the Valkyrie

I would bet that's it. On a skinhead site ...talking about classical music...it's all about Wagner ( pronounced VAhg-ner, for you schleprocks) ..... Ride of the Valkyries and a bunch of other great stuff that Hitler adored.

God damnit ...i have a really ...really ....REALLY old record that i'm looking for and can't find right now because i'm drunk. "Hitler's Favorite Marches" ... it's got swastikas and shit all over it .... pressing of 1939 or 1940 ...fucking unbelieveable that i've got this record. It feels weird just to look at it. I'll scan it and upload it because it's nothing but Wagner marches.

-Eric

[gregtheskin]

I would bet that's it. On a skinhead site ...talking about classical music...it's all about Wagner ( pronounced VAhg-ner, for you schleprocks) ..... Ride of the Valkyries and a bunch of other great stuff that Hitler adored.

God damnit ...i have a really ...really ....REALLY old record that i'm looking for and can't find right now because i'm drunk. "Hitler's Favorite Marches" ... it's got swastikas and shit all over it .... pressing of 1939 or 1940 ...fucking unbelieveable that i've got this record. It feels weird just to look at it. I'll scan it and upload it because it's nothing but Wagner marches.

-Eric

I'm guessing it's got the florentein march on it.

[WhiskeyMedic]

Bax, Handel and La Rue to name a few.

[Verv]

classic music is okay, but by and large i only like the shameless climaxes of the pieces. I enjoy Tchaikovsky's overture of 1812 and pachelbel's canon in d minor, but really, i only enjoy 3-4 minute segments greatly.

i bought a vinyl that has all the exciting parts of the classic pieces, all of the most influential parts, and i dig it a lot, but i am not going to sit through a 40 minute piece just to hear a climax for four-five minutes.

[Johnny Rebel]

but i am not going to sit through a 40 minute piece just to hear a climax for four-five minutes.


That's what I said last night!

zing!:tongue:

[Shane]

I love the shit, I can get into it. I preffer the more intense shit that gets you pumped. I also like Bach. He's got this old organ moody dark brooding shit that I can get into. But still some of the most intense shit is Beetoven. The guy got intense. I also love danny elfman. He did some bad ass shit, but that's not classical, just orchestra shit.

Wagner is fucking great. I have to bring up Apocalypse Now. Fucking great scene.

[grouchybastid]

I would bet that's it. On a skinhead site ...talking about classical music...it's all about Wagner ( pronounced VAhg-ner, for you schleprocks) ..... Ride of the Valkyries and a bunch of other great stuff that Hitler adored.

God damnit ...i have a really ...really ....REALLY old record that i'm looking for and can't find right now because i'm drunk. "Hitler's Favorite Marches" ... it's got swastikas and shit all over it .... pressing of 1939 or 1940 ...fucking unbelieveable that i've got this record. It feels weird just to look at it. I'll scan it and upload it because it's nothing but Wagner marches.

-Eric

Dang! Where the fuck did you find something like that? I'd have that shit on display all Hitler-plate-from-American-Beauty style.

[magnetmaz]

Dang! Where the fuck did you find something like that? I'd have that shit on display all Hitler-plate-from-American-Beauty style.

I thought about framing it and putting it up on the way for historical reasons, but then i thought people might find it off-putting that i've got a big swazi framed on the wall. I'll find it after work and scan or take a pic of the front and back of it.

Where did i find it? My uncle gave it to me. No idea where he found it.

[King of all Buffets]

Antonin Dvorák

[grouchybastid]

I thought about framing it and putting it up on the way for historical reasons, but then i thought people might find it off-putting that i've got a big swazi framed on the wall. I'll find it after work and scan or take a pic of the front and back of it.

Where did i find it? My uncle gave it to me. No idea where he found it.

You can hang a picture of Black Jesus or something next to it, kinda counter-act the Nazi-ism.

[magnetmaz]

You can hang a picture of Black Jesus or something next to it, kinda counter-act the Nazi-ism.

I'd hang a picture of black jesus anyways. I always give props to the top negro.

Also, i think it's good feng shui.

[Knucks]

I have been playing classical piano since I could reach the keyboard. Played as a soloist with the Southeastern Philharmonic when I was in high school. Unfortunately I am still trying to save up the money to pay a piano mover to get my piano from my parents house in Mass to my house in RI. Fucking pricey... then with tuning on top of that... going to run me at least a few hundred dollars. Damn thing is an antique so I have to actually have it crated before I can have it shipped.

Anyhow...

Id say my favorite to listen to would be Lizst, Bergmuller, and Vivaldi.

To play, Id say it would have to be Mozart, Bartok and Chopin.

[Shane]

I have been playing classical piano since I could reach the keyboard. Played as a soloist with the Southeastern Philharmonic when I was in high school. Unfortunately I am still trying to save up the money to pay a piano mover to get my piano from my parents house in Mass to my house in RI. Fucking pricey... then with tuning on top of that... going to run me at least a few hundred dollars. Damn thing is an antique so I have to actually have it crated before I can have it shipped.

Anyhow...

Id say my favorite to listen to would be Lizst, Bergmuller, and Vivaldi.

To play, Id say it would have to be Mozart, Bartok and Chopin.

I had to take 7 years of piano growing up. I hated every minute of it. I haven't played in years, but I'm thinking about buying one for my kids.

[magnetmaz]

I have been playing classical piano since I could reach the keyboard. Played as a soloist with the Southeastern Philharmonic when I was in high school. Unfortunately I am still trying to save up the money to pay a piano mover to get my piano from my parents house in Mass to my house in RI. Fucking pricey... then with tuning on top of that... going to run me at least a few hundred dollars. Damn thing is an antique so I have to actually have it crated before I can have it shipped.


I have a whole bunch of vintage keyboards, synths, organs, etc... i collect them. ( i play the Fender Rhodes piano the most, i think ) ..

But i made a promise to myself over a decade ago that i would get a regular old piano again when i had children. When i was little, my father would put me to sleep by playing Scott Joplin tunes.... and it's probably my favorite memory of growing up - my father putting me tucking me in and then hearing him go downstairs, pour himself a drink, and then play until late at night. I'd like to do the same for my children when i opt to have a few.

-Eric

[bethany]

Anyone else here like classical music? If so, what's your favorite composer?

I've been into Bach, holst, and mussorgsky as of late.

Pachebel's Canon is actually one of my favorite songs. I'm kind of a turbo nerd with classical music b/c I play piano and violin. oh well.

[bethany]

Unfortunately I am still trying to save up the money to pay a piano mover to get my piano from my parents house in Mass to my house in RI.



They are crazy expensive. My nana's moving and was going to throw the piano she has that I learned on. I had my mom move it to her house for the time being until I have a home with a little more room to put it in, emotional attachment beyond anything else haha.

[Knucks]

I had to take 7 years of piano growing up. I hated every minute of it. I haven't played in years, but I'm thinking about buying one for my kids.

I love it.

My fingers are itching to play, but I have to suck it up till I can get the money to get my piano back. :(

[Knucks]

They are crazy expensive. My nana's moving and was going to throw the piano she has that I learned on. I had my mom move it to her house for the time being until I have a home with a little more room to put it in, emotional attachment beyond anything else haha.

Hahaha thats exactly where mine came from!

When I was little we lived downstairs in a converted apt from my grandparents... and I learned on my grammas piano. When they moved to Florida, they were going to get rid of it, and I said HELL NO, and have been trucking it around with me like forever. That thing has been to Cali, Hawaii... you name it. Every time I moved in the military they paid to ship all my shit, so why not?

[gregtheskin]

I don't know how many of you are into organ music, but organlive.com has got some great organ radio on the net. Got lots of Bach, Wagner, Pachelbel......so on and so forth. You can request whatever you find in their archives.Plus it's free! Great tunes at an unbeatable price. I find myself listening to it more and more.