can somebody fuck this guy up?

[drunk as hell]

I don't have the computer skills to do anything horrible to this asshole who breeds pit bulls to fight. this is not something that the dogs can do anything about, they are beaten and starved and fought because it pleases their owner. these dogs are supposed to be human companions not a fucking spectacle to abuse and laugh at as its most exploitable qualities are driven to extremes. if someone can do something to throw a wrench in this guys gears it would greatly appreciated.:mad:

www.oddworld.co.za/pittbul/contact.htm (http://www.oddworld.co.za/pittbul/contact.htm)

thanks

[DavusBrutus]

I don't have the computer skills to do anything horrible to this asshole who breeds pit bulls to fight. this is not something that the dogs can do anything about, they are beaten and starved and fought because it pleases their owner. these dogs are supposed to be human companions not a fucking spectacle to abuse and laugh at as its most exploitable qualities are driven to extremes. if someone can do something to throw a wrench in this guys gears it would greatly appreciated.:mad:

www.oddworld.co.za/pittbul/contact.htm (http://www.oddworld.co.za/pittbul/contact.htm)

thanks

come to hudson county nj, they all use the pitbulls to fight here...

[PromoteChaos]

You need to report him to the local Animal Control, RIGHT NOW!

[drunk as hell]

come to hudson county nj, they all use the pitbulls to fight here...
yeah? thats the gayest fuckin thing a person can do to such a noble animal. there are far more pits, per capita, than humans that deserve any kind of respect. I would love to come face to face with any of the spineless faggots who thinks it's cool to torture a dog to fight for food. if that's you then PM me and I will gladly give you the time and place to stand in front of me and declare it so I can fuck you down to deepest bowel of your soul through a shattered skull.

[drunk as hell]

last post not necessarily directed at Davus. speaking to the masses

[PromoteChaos]

Are you ignoring my suggestion? If you care about the poor dogs, call animal control & have them taken away from the owner. You can even help in finding good homes for them if you want. Just think, if you had called them when I posted that, the dogs would most likely already be taken away & treated better already

[weknowhowtolive]

Just like to point out that these are dogs that were breed specifically for the purpose of destroying other animals.

[Jenny]

Just like to point out that these are dogs that were breed specifically for the purpose of destroying other animals.

doesn't make it acceptable.

[dexy]

Just like to point out that these are dogs that were breed specifically for the purpose of destroying other animals.


It does not make it acceptable to use them to fight. People like that give the breed a bad name. Almost all dogs used in fighting are destroyed at the shelter because most rescue groups do not have room for them.

[PromoteChaos]

doesn't make it acceptable.

Exactly

[bethany]

How do you know their for fighting? It says "match dogs" but that doesnt necessarily mean fighting. In Lynn MA every year they have the pitbull games, where respectable pitbull owners bring their dogs to compete in weight pulls, obstacle courses and best in show. I wouldnt think dogs for fighting wouldnt come with a family tree, also the studs and bitches have no facial scarring.

[WBC]

Just like to point out that these are dogs that were breed specifically for the purpose of destroying other animals.
and Rhodesian ridgebacks were bred to hunt down runaway slaves..... original purpose dont mean squat....

[drunk as hell]

How do you know their for fighting? It says "match dogs" but that doesnt necessarily mean fighting. In Lynn MA every year they have the pitbull games, where respectable pitbull owners bring their dogs to compete in weight pulls, obstacle courses and best in show. I wouldnt think dogs for fighting wouldnt come with a family tree, also the studs and bitches have no facial scarring.
this guy seems to try to justify fighting them, and "match dogs" are fighting dogs.

[DavusBrutus]

yeah? thats the gayest fuckin thing a person can do to such a noble animal. there are far more pits, per capita, than humans that deserve any kind of respect. I would love to come face to face with any of the spineless faggots who thinks it's cool to torture a dog to fight for food. if that's you then PM me and I will gladly give you the time and place to stand in front of me and declare it so I can fuck you down to deepest bowel of your soul through a shattered skull.


yeah. i'd say it to them but who wants to when theyre holding an 80 pound killer on a leash, and the dog's been trained to like the taste of blood. i appreciate pit bulls, but every single one in this area is bred to be mean. i see owners beat them, choke them, kick them, make them play fetch with dead cats, etc.. there used to be pitbull fights every friday night behind my old high school... these fuckin people here are ridiculous with this shit..

[DavusBrutus]

last post not necessarily directed at Davus. speaking to the masses

not necessarily? what the fuck's that supposed to mean?! hahaha...

[PromoteChaos]

yeah. i'd say it to them but who wants to when theyre holding an 80 pound killer on a leash, and the dog's been trained to like the taste of blood. i appreciate pit bulls, but every single one in this area is bred to be mean. i see owners beat them, choke them, kick them, make them play fetch with dead cats, etc.. there used to be pitbull fights every friday night behind my old high school... these fuckin people here are ridiculous with this shit..


So, you stand there & watch dickheads beating, choking & kicking dogs, but you do nothing about it? Talk about fucking disgusting!!

I'm not saying you approach the dickheads, I'm saying you call & report them & have the dogs taken away - otherwise you are just helping them continue this shit

[LastRites]

if someone can do something to throw a wrench in this guys gears it would greatly appreciated.:mad:

For free? lol
Comon...throw some prices up in the air.

[SWIFTY]

so have you done out about it yet.

[drunk as hell]

so have you done out about it yet.
huh ?

[drunk as hell]

For free? lol
Comon...throw some prices up in the air.
I'm not too computer savvy. just figured someone might enjoy doing some internet harm to a real asshole.

[Jenny]

I'm not too computer savvy. just figured someone might enjoy doing some internet harm to a real asshole.

Like it was stated before... fuck "internet harm". If you're worried about the dogs, call the authorities. That's why they're there.

[DavusBrutus]

So, you stand there & watch dickheads beating, choking & kicking dogs, but you do nothing about it? Talk about fucking disgusting!!

I'm not saying you approach the dickheads, I'm saying you call & report them & have the dogs taken away - otherwise you are just helping them continue this shit

It's not like they all hang out in a set place beating and choking their dogs. Am I going to confront an idiot with an 80 pound killer on a leash? No. On my craziest day i would not do that shit, not out of fear for harm to me (maybe a little), but if this douche sicked his dog on me, i'd have to put it down, for my safety. Sure, I call the cops every single time I see shit like that happen, no one said I didn't do anything. However, the problem is very widespread... much more than my phone calls can keep up with. The fights behind my high school are infamous, but they don't go away. They have been busted up by the cops, but they still happen, in different spots etc... These people always have lookouts and shit to make sure they don't get nailed, and to keep business coming.

Sooo... I personally don't think what I do is DISGUSTING, I think these assholes making money off of animals killing each other is disgusting. .

[stefhan302]

Problem is people out right think Pits are evil killing machines.. So false. My mom owned and ran a day care and had a 70 lbs female tri color and the kids would lay on her and fall asleep and she NEVER once snapped nipped or tried to harm the kids.. You can raise any dog to be a mean dog... I hope you just dont sit and allow this to keep going.. You need to speak up

[DavusBrutus]

Problem is people out right think Pits are evil killing machines.. So false. My mom owned and ran a day care and had a 70 lbs female tri color and the kids would lay on her and fall asleep and she NEVER once snapped nipped or tried to harm the kids.. You can raise any dog to be a mean dog... I hope you just dont sit and allow this to keep going.. You need to speak up

was this at me? because if it is, i'll respond. I know many 'nice' pits. My good friend's pit, Mookie, is a sweetheart. But here in Hudson County, many of these animals breed their pits to fight. And by speaking up, does calling the cops count? if so, refer to above posts.

One more thing for everyone's comment.. What good does calling animal control do when all of the shelters in the area are teeming with pits living in unsanitary conditions because no one will adopt them? They are all confiscated dogs bred to fight, but since they have been trained to be mean, no one will adopt them. I cannot vouch that sending them to shelters is such a great solution. lots of people talk about saving these dogs, but what about the hundreds upon hundreds who live out their days in overcrowded shelters?

[Tokyohoon]

Are you ignoring my suggestion? If you care about the poor dogs, call animal control & have them taken away from the owner. You can even help in finding good homes for them if you want. Just think, if you had called them when I posted that, the dogs would most likely already be taken away & treated better already

The site in question is in South Africa - as is the bank account.

[stefhan302]

was this at me? because if it is, i'll respond. I know many 'nice' pits. My good friend's pit, Mookie, is a sweetheart. But here in Hudson County, many of these animals breed their pits to fight. And by speaking up, does calling the cops count? if so, refer to above posts.

One more thing for everyone's comment.. What good does calling animal control do when all of the shelters in the area are teeming with pits living in unsanitary conditions because no one will adopt them? They are all confiscated dogs bred to fight, but since they have been trained to be mean, no one will adopt them. I cannot vouch that sending them to shelters is such a great solution. lots of people talk about saving these dogs, but what about the hundreds upon hundreds who live out their days in overcrowded shelters?

no wasnt at you just a genreal idea.. Pits get a bad name from the public based on history of fights etc etc.. But i hear yah on the shelters and stuff... For pits the best thing is a shelter designed for pits and bully dogs.. Normal shelters end up putting them down

[weknowhowtolive]

My point was, everyone is saying these are kind loving noble dogs, when in reality, regardless of your dog and how much it likes your kids, its in its blood to kill and destroy other living things and it will do it if the instinct kicks in. Why do you think dogs who live around kids all their lives and never so much as nip suddenly go ballistic and attack people? Its not like they are crazy or they got beat, its what they are born to do.

I have an aussie sheppard/boarder collie mix, and he's a great dog but when he's around kids he will herd them and if they fight or wrestle or whatever he WILL go nuts.

Dont act like dogs arent meant to fight and kill, because they are. Im not saying i approve, im just saying dont try and act like pittbulls get a bad name because of what they are SUPPOSED to do...we gave them a false name by trying to say they arent violent unless they are treated badly...thats the biggest load of shit ever.

[DavusBrutus]

My point was, everyone is saying these are kind loving noble dogs, when in reality, regardless of your dog and how much it likes your kids, its in its blood to kill and destroy other living things and it will do it if the instinct kicks in. Why do you think dogs who live around kids all their lives and never so much as nip suddenly go ballistic and attack people? Its not like they are crazy or they got beat, its what they are born to do.

I have an aussie sheppard/boarder collie mix, and he's a great dog but when he's around kids he will herd them and if they fight or wrestle or whatever he WILL go nuts.

Dont act like dogs arent meant to fight and kill, because they are. Im not saying i approve, im just saying dont try and act like pittbulls get a bad name because of what they are SUPPOSED to do...we gave them a false name by trying to say they arent violent unless they are treated badly...thats the biggest load of shit ever.

(dude, watch out, pit bull owners are really defensive and overly sensitive. like al sharpton.)

[dexy]

I am not a pitbull owner, but I do rescue for large breed dogs. Unfortunately any dog regardless of size will bite if and when it is provoked. Just because a dog is of certain breed it does not mean that it is ok to fight it.

The dogs are better off at the shelter but because of people that think it is ok to fight them, these poor dogs end up being euthanized because we can not determine of they will attack anyone, especially a child. My previous dog (which we ended up adopting) was a super sweet boxer that was used as bait for dog fights, it breaks my heart to see how loving these animals are when they get treated with love.

Please do not think it is ok to fight your dog or let it continue to happen. Make sure people know you won't tolerate it and call the proper authorities immediately, I have and will do it again if needed.

[maura]

The site in question is in South Africa - as is the bank account.
i was wondering if anyone else noted the wierd out of country area code, not so easy to do something about it if it's not even in your country, much less THAT country, dog fighting is the least of their problems.

someone was throwing decapitated pit bull heads in the roads not long ago around here, my girl came from a fighting line, but of course is the biggest chicken dog around since she's so spoiled.

[weknowhowtolive]

i was wondering if anyone else noted the wierd out of country area code, not so easy to do something about it if it's not even in your country, much less THAT country, dog fighting is the least of their problems.

someone was throwing decapitated pit bull heads in the roads not long ago around here, my girl came from a fighting line, but of course is the biggest chicken dog around since she's so spoiled.She's a chicken until that killer instinct kicks in for whatever reason and she rips into whatever it is. Its not something that just goes away.

[drunk as hell]

My point was, everyone is saying these are kind loving noble dogs, when in reality, regardless of your dog and how much it likes your kids, its in its blood to kill and destroy other living things and it will do it if the instinct kicks in. Why do you think dogs who live around kids all their lives and never so much as nip suddenly go ballistic and attack people? Its not like they are crazy or they got beat, its what they are born to do.

I have an aussie sheppard/boarder collie mix, and he's a great dog but when he's around kids he will herd them and if they fight or wrestle or whatever he WILL go nuts.

Dont act like dogs arent meant to fight and kill, because they are. Im not saying i approve, im just saying dont try and act like pittbulls get a bad name because of what they are SUPPOSED to do...we gave them a false name by trying to say they arent violent unless they are treated badly...thats the biggest load of shit ever.
Yes, but it is in the genetic make up of pits to protect humans, and to use their innate agression towards other animals to do just that. it doesn't matter what they are raised to do, they are genetically programmed to defend their human counterparts even under the most adverse conditions. The attacks on people are often made by a breed mistaken to be a pit bull terrier, and/or provoked by some kind of threatening behavior on the persons part whether they realize it or not.

[drunk as hell]

i was wondering if anyone else noted the wierd out of country area code, not so easy to do something about it if it's not even in your country, much less THAT country, dog fighting is the least of their problems.

someone was throwing decapitated pit bull heads in the roads not long ago around here, my girl came from a fighting line, but of course is the biggest chicken dog around since she's so spoiled.
thus the internet harm being most appropriate.

[drunk as hell]

She's a chicken until that killer instinct kicks in for whatever reason and she rips into whatever it is. Its not something that just goes away.
no instinct doesn't go away. but if you recognize the propensity and are responsible enough about it you can easily avoid those shitty situations with animals. and like I stated before, a pit is genetically predisposed to protect its people and will prove its loyalty over and over again to those who are kind to it

[weknowhowtolive]

Yes, but it is in the genetic make up of pits to protect humans, and to use their innate agression towards other animals to do just that. it doesn't matter what they are raised to do, they are genetically programmed to defend their human counterparts even under the most adverse conditions. The attacks on people are often made by a breed mistaken to be a pit bull terrier, and/or provoked by some kind of threatening behavior on the persons part whether they realize it or not.Are you kidding? A person can be yelling and set off defensive instincts in dogs. My dog barks up a storm and starts jumping up if people yell at eachother too loud. You think a dog trained for centuries to kill wont bite?

Seriously i'm not defending dog fighting here, I just dont get you people trying to act like pitts arent violent dogs. they are and always will be and you take a risk when you own one that it does what its supposed to do.

[DavusBrutus]

Are you kidding? A person can be yelling and set off defensive instincts in dogs. My dog barks up a storm and starts jumping up if people yell at eachother too loud. You think a dog trained for centuries to kill wont bite?

Seriously i'm not defending dog fighting here, I just dont get you people trying to act like pitts arent violent dogs. they are and always will be and you take a risk when you own one that it does what its supposed to do.

hater. :tease:

[Diana E]

Are you kidding? A person can be yelling and set off defensive instincts in dogs. My dog barks up a storm and starts jumping up if people yell at eachother too loud. You think a dog trained for centuries to kill wont bite?

Seriously i'm not defending dog fighting here, I just dont get you people trying to act like pitts arent violent dogs. they are and always will be and you take a risk when you own one that it does what its supposed to do.

A dog trained for centuries to kill... pits were bred and trained for "game". Not necessarily to kill. They were bred and trained for stamina and extreme pain tolerance. I love it when people have no fuckin clue what they're talking about. Did you also know that pits were heavily bred for non aggression towards man? Did you know that they were bred so that their owners could literally reach into their gaping, yapping mouths and pull them off another aniimal without so much as a bruise? Did you also know that if an owner was bit.. even if it was accidental (which most times was the case) the dog was immediately culled and any offspring it may have sired was also culled?

This was the way it WAS done. This was the way they WERE bred. Unfortunately, for some reason that fuckin escapes me, people started looking at pits and breeding them for their own weird, bad ass, ghetto mentality motives. They took the loyalty, stamina, intelligence and game of these dogs and ruined them. The last 20 years has seen a destruction of one of the greatest breeds to ever grace the planet and it's a fuckin shame. Those are not pits, they're mutants. Fortunately, you can still find and breed a true pit. I owned one and I miss her dearly... she truly was one of the best living beings I have ever had the priviledge to know.

I'm with you on those beasts that people want to pass off as pits. They shouldn't be living. But they're also not pits.. sorry but they're not.

[weknowhowtolive]

A dog trained for centuries to kill... pits were bred and trained for "game". Not necessarily to kill. They were bred and trained for stamina and extreme pain tolerance. I love it when people have no fuckin clue what they're talking about. Did you also know that pits were heavily bred for non aggression towards man? Did you know that they were bred so that their owners could literally reach into their gaping, yapping mouths and pull them off another aniimal without so much as a bruise? Did you also know that if an owner was bit.. even if it was accidental (which most times was the case) the dog was immediately culled and any offspring it may have sired was also culled?

This was the way it WAS done. This was the way they WERE bred. Unfortunately, for some reason that fuckin escapes me, people started looking at pits and breeding them for their own weird, bad ass, ghetto mentality motives. They took the loyalty, stamina, intelligence and game of these dogs and ruined them. The last 20 years has seen a destruction of one of the greatest breeds to ever grace the planet and it's a fuckin shame. Those are not pits, they're mutants. Fortunately, you can still find and breed a true pit. I owned one and I miss her dearly... she truly was one of the best living beings I have ever had the priviledge to know.

I'm with you on those beasts that people want to pass off as pits. They shouldn't be living. But they're also not pits.. sorry but they're not.Uhhhhh....Pitbulls arent just one breed, first of all.

Original pits were used in england to KILL vermin. They were also used for bear baiting, badger baiting, rat baiting, bull baiting, rabbit baiting....

Here's some stuff from wiki

"Dogs destroyed vermin efficiently and were easy animals to care for. As time went on the sports of badger and rat baiting — among others — caught on. It is from the terrier that pit bulls get their kind nature and juvenile behavior; it is also where the instinct to kill came from."

"Part of the standard for organized dog-fighting required that the match referee who is unacquainted with the dog be able to enter the ring, pick up a dog while it was engaged in a fight, and get the respective owner to carry it out of the ring without being bitten." (in reference to BREEDING THESE DOGS TO FIGHT)

These dogs were used around homes and farms as guard dogs. If an owner is being attacked, they WILL attack back, they were TRAINED to do this. You think if some dudes out bear hunting with his dogs and the bear attacks the owner the dogs will just sit down?

You got some scientific proof that pits wont react to anger like they were trained?

This is fucking ridiculous. I like pits, as much as I can like dogs, which isnt much, I think they are fine dogs. But you're a fucking tard if you dont think that dog will fuck someone up if it thinks its owner or itself is in danger.

[Doc]

Uhhhhh....Pitbulls arent just one breed, first of all.

Original pits were used in england to KILL vermin. They were also used for bear baiting, badger baiting, rat baiting, bull baiting, rabbit baiting....

Here's some stuff from wiki

"Dogs destroyed vermin efficiently and were easy animals to care for. As time went on the sports of badger and rat baiting — among others — caught on. It is from the terrier that pit bulls get their kind nature and juvenile behavior; it is also where the instinct to kill came from."

"Part of the standard for organized dog-fighting required that the match referee who is unacquainted with the dog be able to enter the ring, pick up a dog while it was engaged in a fight, and get the respective owner to carry it out of the ring without being bitten." (in reference to BREEDING THESE DOGS TO FIGHT)

These dogs were used around homes and farms as guard dogs. If an owner is being attacked, they WILL attack back, they were TRAINED to do this. You think if some dudes out bear hunting with his dogs and the bear attacks the owner the dogs will just sit down?

You got some scientific proof that pits wont react to anger like they were trained?

This is fucking ridiculous. I like pits, as much as I can like dogs, which isnt much, I think they are fine dogs. But you're a fucking tard if you dont think that dog will fuck someone up if it thinks its owner or itself is in danger.

There's a golden rule - NEVER COMPLETELY TRUST YOUR DOG!

[Diana E]

Uhhhhh....Pitbulls arent just one breed, first of all. I know this.

Original pits were used in england to KILL vermin. They were also used for bear baiting, badger baiting, rat baiting, bull baiting, rabbit baiting.... TERRIERS, like yorkies, were used to kill vermin. Pit bull TERRIERS were used for baiting. Same church, different pew.. etc.. etc.. and i believe I did say "necessarily to kill"

Here's some stuff from wiki

"Dogs destroyed vermin efficiently and were easy animals to care for. As time went on the sports of badger and rat baiting — among others — caught on. It is from the terrier that pit bulls get their kind nature and juvenile behavior; it is also where the instinct to kill came from."

"Part of the standard for organized dog-fighting required that the match referee who is unacquainted with the dog be able to enter the ring, pick up a dog while it was engaged in a fight, and get the respective owner to carry it out of the ring without being bitten." (in reference to BREEDING THESE DOGS TO FIGHT) see what i said in my 1st post.

These dogs were used around homes and farms as guard dogs. If an owner is being attacked, they WILL attack back, they were TRAINED to do this. You think if some dudes out bear hunting with his dogs and the bear attacks the owner the dogs will just sit down?
Pits make horrible guard dogs. Pits don't bark very often. It's not really part of the breed. Guard dogs bark.. a lot. IE german shepards, dobies, rotties etc. Of course they'll attack, i never said they wouldn't but they don't attack out of nothing. They're not the friggin mad dogs everyone makes them out to be.

You got some scientific proof that pits wont react to anger like they were trained? I never said they wouldn't, wtf are you talking about? I never proposed to say they were these gentle little creatures. They're animals but i'm so sick of them being demonized by people who really don't get it. Real pits are NOT killers.

This is fucking ridiculous. I like pits, as much as I can like dogs, which isnt much, I think they are fine dogs. But you're a fucking tard if you dont think that dog will fuck someone up if it thinks its owner or itself is in danger. I would hope the dog would do that. I had mine protect me on two occasions. And ironically, out of the 5 times i heard my dog bark, 2 of the times were when she thought i was in danger. The other 3 were while she was on a spring poll.. best shit ever btw.

[weknowhowtolive]

There's a golden rule - NEVER COMPLETELY TRUST YOUR DOG!Exactly.

[drunk as hell]

Uhhhhh....Pitbulls arent just one breed, first of all.

Original pits were used in england to KILL vermin. They were also used for bear baiting, badger baiting, rat baiting, bull baiting, rabbit baiting....

Here's some stuff from wiki

"Dogs destroyed vermin efficiently and were easy animals to care for. As time went on the sports of badger and rat baiting — among others — caught on. It is from the terrier that pit bulls get their kind nature and juvenile behavior; it is also where the instinct to kill came from."

"Part of the standard for organized dog-fighting required that the match referee who is unacquainted with the dog be able to enter the ring, pick up a dog while it was engaged in a fight, and get the respective owner to carry it out of the ring without being bitten." (in reference to BREEDING THESE DOGS TO FIGHT)

These dogs were used around homes and farms as guard dogs. If an owner is being attacked, they WILL attack back, they were TRAINED to do this. You think if some dudes out bear hunting with his dogs and the bear attacks the owner the dogs will just sit down?

You got some scientific proof that pits wont react to anger like they were trained?

This is fucking ridiculous. I like pits, as much as I can like dogs, which isnt much, I think they are fine dogs. But you're a fucking tard if you dont think that dog will fuck someone up if it thinks its owner or itself is in danger.
the American Pit Bull Terrier is one specific breed, there are others that people wrongly label as pits (Cane Corsos, Am Staff terrier, Presa Canarios, American Bulldogs, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, Boxers, etc). this is where most of the bad publicity comes from, along with the detestable treatment they endure under the control of shitty people

[drunk as hell]

www.atts.org (http://www.atts.org), the proof is in the pudding.

[CptnSpaulding]

There's a golden rule - NEVER COMPLETELY TRUST YOUR DOG!
haha, I thought I might see your name in this thread

[CptnSpaulding]

Pits make horrible guard dogs. Pits don't bark
the 5 times i heard my dog bark, 2 of the times were when she thought i was in danger -Diana E

did I just read those correctly?

[CptnSpaulding]

naturally aggressive + naturally strong = you better be a fucking smart owner that knows how to train your dog.

they aint no fucking weiner dog or Chiwawa..where you dont have to pay much attention to

[weknowhowtolive]

naturally aggressive + naturally strong = you better be a fucking smart owner that knows how to train your dog.

they aint no fucking weiner dog or Chiwawa..where you dont have to pay much attention toWhat are you talking about, they are kind loving animals that would never harm a flea.

[CptnSpaulding]

What are you talking about, they are kind loving animals that would never harm a flea.
They can be if you train them correct. You cant train them like other dogs.... some people fail to see that. There a lil different

[grouchybastid]

They can be if you train them correct. You cant train them like other dogs.... some people fail to see that. There a lil different

The same applies to any breed, try raising a border collie the same way you'd train up a lab and see what happens. Breeds are very distinct, and individuals within the breed are as well...dogs don't come from cookie cutters.

[CptnSpaulding]

The same applies to any breed, try raising a border collie the same way you'd train up a lab and see what happens. Breeds are very distinct, and individuals within the breed are as well...dogs don't come from cookie cutters.
yea, but who the hell cares if a border collie isnt train well? There aggression/strength will never come close to be a threat to society

[grouchybastid]

yea, but who the hell cares if a border collie isnt train well? There aggression/strength will never come close to be a threat to society

A threat to *society*? I'd hardly say that any dog is a threat to society. Besides, herding breeds have a tendency to chase kids...to the dogs, they're just smallish animals that need herding. An improperly trained border collie will bite a kid faster than you can blink.

[PromoteChaos]

Dogs or certain breeds aren't the fucking problem anyway. BAD OWNERS MAKE BAD DOGS!

We have 2 Rottweilers that were both abused & 1 had to have a chain surgically removed from his neck! We saved both of them - 1 through the Humane Society & 1 through our vet who confiscated the one with the chain embedded in his neck from his idiot owners & gave him to us. He was nearly put to sleep through no fault of his own. Both dogs who are big oh so scary Rotties, are the kindest most affectionate dogs. We are good owners & we trained them well, plus Rotties are good dogs who get a bad rep because of stupid ass owners.

Our Rotties as well as most others & other "vicious breeds" are awesome, loving & loyal dogs who are as bad or as good as YOU make them. Proper training & love is all any dog needs to be a good & obedient dog.

All of this "that breed are bad dogs, this breed are vicious dogs" talk is a LAME EXCUSE for the owners fucking laziness & it makes me fucking sick!!

[Diana E]

-Diana E

did I just read those correctly?


Yes, the 5 fuckin times in the 5 fuckin years I owned her. That averages out to once every 365 days. ?? Wtf is the issue? Of course they are CAPABLE of barking. They just choose not to most of the time.

For the last time.. true, honest to goodness pitbulls were NOT BRED BRED BRED to be aggressive towards man. Fuckin chihauahahahaauus are 100x's nastier than pits.. left untrained and to their own natural devices. Why the hell did i revisit this fuckin thread? All of you kiss my fuckin ass. Except Allie, cuz she's got nice breasts.

[dexy]

Yes, the 5 fuckin times in the 5 fuckin years I owned her. That averages out to once every 365 days. ?? Wtf is the issue? Of course they are CAPABLE of barking. They just choose not to most of the time.

For the last time.. true, honest to goodness pitbulls were NOT BRED BRED BRED to be aggressive towards man. Fuckin chihauahahahaauus are 100x's nastier than pits.. left untrained and to their own natural devices. Why the hell did i revisit this fuckin thread? All of you kiss my fuckin ass. Except Allie, cuz she's got nice breasts.


No way, I am not kissing your ass unless it looks like a guys :wink:

[weknowhowtolive]

the thing about herding dogs is true. I have one...but guess what?

I KNOW THAT HE IS CAPABLE OF THAT, I ACCEPT IT AND I DONT TRY AND MAKE SHITTY EXCUSES!

Its their job. I dont care if you train a line of them for 50 years, the 5th generation is still going to have that shit in his blood. I know that if my dog is around a bunch of kids rough housing, its time to pull him back if he barks because he will defend them like he would any animal, but its not great for kids.

Thats what pisses me off about pit owners getting pissed about this. I'm not saying your dog is a violent killer, i'm saying it CAN BITE and no amount of pictures of pit's licking little kids is going to change that.

[DavusBrutus]

http://www.ihr.org/webpics/hypocrite.jpg

[weknowhowtolive]

http://www.ptvn.org/files/square%20images/square%20baby%20and%20pitbull.jpg
http://www.pbreporter.com/images/slap1.jpg
http://www.workingpitbull.com/images/aaron2.jpg
http://www.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2005/06/23/mn_pit_bull_attack1.jpg

(oops that last one was from the town over, dont know how it slipped in or why...... :rolleyes:)

[LastRites]

Whatever...I still see no price tag on whoever this guy is. This thread sucks now...got me all excited for nothing.

[Doc]

There is one thing most people tend to miss when we talk about dogs being killers..........it doesn't matter how much attention the media gives an incident.........fatal dog attacks are extremely rare. Don't believe the fkn hype. You are more likely to die from a lightning strike in the US. Even the number of dogs that have given a bite that required medical attention is a tiny, tiny percentage of the dog population. As a society we seem to be increasingly less aware and willing to understand canine behaviour. There are always a multitude of reasons behind every attack: socialization, learned behaviours, genetics, physical condition and size of dog, reproductive status of dog, popularity of breed, individual temperament, environmental stresses, owner responsibility, victim behaviour, victim size and physical condition, and sheer plain old misfortune. If you believe sensationalist press stories then quite frankly you are a muppet.

[grouchybastid]

Dogs or certain breeds aren't the fucking problem anyway. BAD OWNERS MAKE BAD DOGS!
. . .
All of this "that breed are bad dogs, this breed are vicious dogs" talk is a LAME EXCUSE for the owners fucking laziness & it makes me fucking sick!!

100% agreed. I don't think I made it as clear as I should have, I wasn't implying that some breeds are bad or whatever. I was just saying, train your dog properly...part of that being, know the breed.

And Allie, I'm with you on the Rotties, I've NEVER met one that wasn't a big ol' mush. They're great dogs.

[grouchybastid]

There is one thing most people tend to miss when we talk about dogs being killers..........it doesn't matter how much attention the media gives an incident.........fatal dog attacks are extremely rare. Don't believe the fkn hype. You are more likely to die from a lightning strike in the US. Even the number of dogs that have given a bite that required medical attention is a tiny, tiny percentage of the dog population. As a society we seem to be increasingly less aware and willing to understand canine behaviour. There are always a multitude of reasons behind every attack: socialization, learned behaviours, genetics, physical condition and size of dog, reproductive status of dog, popularity of breed, individual temperament, environmental stresses, owner responsibility, victim behaviour, victim size and physical condition, and sheer plain old misfortune. If you believe sensationalist press stories then quite frankly you are a muppet.

Truth. Hype is all that it is.

[PromoteChaos]

100% agreed. I don't think I made it as clear as I should have, I wasn't implying that some breeds are bad or whatever. I was just saying, train your dog properly...part of that being, know the breed.

And Allie, I'm with you on the Rotties, I've NEVER met one that wasn't a big ol' mush. They're great dogs.


Well, I got what you were trying to say, but we may be evil twins seperated at birth.

One of my babies has a message for you:

R, you talkin bout me?
You talkin bout me, R?
Me - "big ol mush", I think not!
Okay, really I do, but I'll rip out a scumbags eyes on command:angel: Grrrr!
http://skinheads.net/photopost/data/544/medium/IMG_2966.JPG
Do I amuse you, R?
Do I look like a fuckin clown-dog?
(wait, don't answer that)

[grouchybastid]

Well, I got what you were trying to say, but we may be evil twins seperated at birth.

Ever since I was a kid I've been telling my family that I can't possibly be related to them, so you may be onto something there.....


One of my babies has a message for you:

R, you talkin bout me?
You talkin bout me, R?
Me - "big ol mush", I think not!
Okay, really I do, but I'll rip out a scumbags eyes on command:angel: Grrrr!
http://skinheads.net/photopost/data/544/medium/IMG_2966.JPG
Do I amuse you, R?
Do I look like a fuckin clown-dog?
(wait, don't answer that)

Hahahaha! Excellent.

That big ol' sloppy tongue....you just want to tug on it, or wrap it around the nose or something. :biggrin:

[Professor]

A dog trained for centuries to kill... pits were bred and trained for "game". Not necessarily to kill. They were bred and trained for stamina and extreme pain tolerance. I love it when people have no fuckin clue what they're talking about. Did you also know that pits were heavily bred for non aggression towards man? Did you know that they were bred so that their owners could literally reach into their gaping, yapping mouths and pull them off another aniimal without so much as a bruise? Did you also know that if an owner was bit.. even if it was accidental (which most times was the case) the dog was immediately culled and any offspring it may have sired was also culled?

This was the way it WAS done. This was the way they WERE bred. Unfortunately, for some reason that fuckin escapes me, people started looking at pits and breeding them for their own weird, bad ass, ghetto mentality motives. They took the loyalty, stamina, intelligence and game of these dogs and ruined them. The last 20 years has seen a destruction of one of the greatest breeds to ever grace the planet and it's a fuckin shame. Those are not pits, they're mutants. Fortunately, you can still find and breed a true pit. I owned one and I miss her dearly... she truly was one of the best living beings I have ever had the priviledge to know.

I'm with you on those beasts that people want to pass off as pits. They shouldn't be living. But they're also not pits.. sorry but they're not.


thank you for taking the words out of my.......uh, fingers, i guess. i can put my hand in his mouth to get whatever is in there and i will not get so much as a scratch. hell, i would go so far as to say that anyone not afraid of dogs would be able to do the same. he'll bark like a madman if someone gets close to the house or rings the bell but he's not gonna attack anyone. also, i know damn well what he's capable of. i also know what jack russell terriers are capable of. i have the nice lovely scar and still occasional pain to prove it.


buncha fucking jerkoffs overgeneralizing everything again. my baby has been attacked at least 4 times now, twice by a two different pairs of mutts/halfbreeds, once by a husky and once by some little puffball thing. he could have easily killed all of them without breaking a pant, but he didn't because he is a good dog and he was raised to be a good dog. the time he was attacked by the first pair of mutts, one drew blood and i tackled and pinned it while he was keeping the other one at bay until someone could pull it away. i was ready to kill that dog, and it's not a figure of speech. that dog was not gonna make it out of my yard alive, and it wouldn't be my dog's fault. the last time he was attacked (a couple of weeks ago by the neighbors' dogs) he squared them up so only could get at him at a time. when they were up on hind legs, he was pushing the one around so the other was always behind the one he was engaged with.

here's a key part that i should also mention: my dog was on a leash in my hand every time while none of the others were.

and seriously, if people are gonna breed dogs to fight they should be put down if the dog is put down. no fucking excuses.

[DavusBrutus]

and seriously, if people are gonna breed dogs to fight they should be put down if the dog is put down. no fucking excuses.


nice. that sould solve the overpopulation in Hudson County real quick.

[Professor]

nice. that sould solve the overpopulation in Hudson County real quick.

executions would solve a lot of problems real quick.

[AnotherBustedKnuckle13]

and Rhodesian ridgebacks were bred to hunt down runaway slaves..... original purpose dont mean squat....

As was the "fila",the brazilian mastiff...Brought over my christopher columbus

[dexy]

As was the "fila",the brazilian mastiff...Brought over my christopher columbus


fila's are banned in alot of states because if their true aggression. They are beautiful and powerful at the same time. My friend who only deals with mastiff rescue just had a 6 week old fila and that little shit attacked everyone and everything. Never backed down to the other mastiffs (250-300lbs) she was on them and full out attacking them, they had to put her down about a month ago because of her aggression