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Jimmy

09-05-2006, 02:30 PM

Finally, they let me out of Skindergarten. Anyway, this is Penn and Hughes second match. Penn won the first match quickly. How will this one turn out? Has Hughes really gotten that much better? Has Penn gotten worse?

PUNISHER

09-05-2006, 02:37 PM

Jimmy

09-05-2006, 02:38 PM

Matt knows Karate but B.J. knows crazy.

Haha, its KAH-RAZEE!

Jimmy

09-05-2006, 02:39 PM

Matt knows Karate but B.J. knows crazy.

Hey, what ever happened with you? You ever fight MMA again? I know you saw your buddy Shonie Carter on TUF 4.

PUNISHER

09-05-2006, 02:42 PM

Hey, what ever happened with you? You ever fight MMA again? I know you saw your buddy Shonie Carter on TUF 4.
Nah, no more MMA. It's fuckin up my kickboxing game. I still roll once in a while but I won't be competing in MMA until I reach my goal in kickboxing. Then I'll fight MMA again cuz the money will be worth it. The money is shit at this level in MMA. Besides, kickboxing is my sport.

Jimmy

09-05-2006, 02:45 PM

Nah, no more MMA. It's fuckin up my kickboxing game. I still roll once in a while but I won't be competing in MMA until I reach my goal in kickboxing. Then I'll fight MMA again cuz the money will be worth it. The money is shit at this level in MMA. Besides, kickboxing is my sport.

How did Hominick's takedown defense get so good?

PUNISHER

09-05-2006, 02:49 PM

How did Hominick's takedown defense get so good?
It's always been good. You can see how great it was in his first TKO title fight against "the monkey" (I forgot the guys real name). He has a wicked sprawl and crossface, always did. Mark is actually a really good grappler. He didn't start out in kickboxing, he started out in Pankration. He just prefers his kickboxing and trains with kickboxers.

LeftWingScum

09-07-2006, 12:01 AM

i pick the third option...GSP.

who cares who wins? whoever wins is going to get ravaged by GSP.

but for the record i say hughes.

DIYWMD

09-07-2006, 04:32 AM

I'd like to see BJ win, but I have no idea really. I'm just happy Mayhem submitted Lawler.

Jimmy

09-07-2006, 11:32 AM

i pick the third option...GSP.

who cares who wins? whoever wins is going to get ravaged by GSP.

but for the record i say hughes.

B.J. Penn already beat GSP into hamburger meat, bro. I don't know how the hell GSP got that decision.

LeftWingScum

09-08-2006, 01:18 AM

B.J. Penn already beat GSP into hamburger meat, bro. I don't know how the hell GSP got that decision.

he got the decision because he controlled the entire fight. bj couldn't stop his takedowns and got owned on the ground. penn hit GSP with a single hit that ripped him open early...and couldn't do shit afterwards. it was a very obviously one sided affair.

King of all Buffets

09-08-2006, 10:21 AM

I said Hughes by submission, he's leaps and bounds better then when Penn beat him before. I wouldnt mind if Huges lost....I'd like to see some different tbelt holders for awhile....Its getting boring watching Hughes and Liddel decimate everyone thats put against them.

Jimmy

09-12-2006, 12:17 PM

he got the decision because he controlled the entire fight. bj couldn't stop his takedowns and got owned on the ground. penn hit GSP with a single hit that ripped him open early...and couldn't do shit afterwards. it was a very obviously one sided affair.

I agree that GSP got takedown, but he didn't control anything on the ground. He got takedowns... that's it. Penn beat his ass, and got robbed. I like GSP a lot, but he got clowned.

fightgirrl

09-12-2006, 01:41 PM

Hugehs has gotten better and has no plans on letting Penn top him again

It's going to be a good fight either way.

PUNISHER

09-12-2006, 01:45 PM

I agree that GSP got takedown, but he didn't control anything on the ground. He got takedowns... that's it. Penn beat his ass, and got robbed. I like GSP a lot, but he got clowned.
I think that B.J. actually thought he was winning the fight the whole time and didn't press the action. GSP did, that may be why he won.

Jimmy

09-12-2006, 03:11 PM

Hugehs has gotten better and has no plans on letting Penn top him again

It's going to be a good fight either way.

I was thinking that Hughes planned on letting B.J. knock the piss out of him, choke the shit out of him... and then give him a big, bloody kiss like the last time they fought.

I think it will be a much better fight this time around too. There is no doubt that Matt Hughes is one of the best, and B.J. Penn is well known for his tendency to be erratic.

Jimmy

09-12-2006, 03:12 PM

I think that B.J. actually thought he was winning the fight the whole time and didn't press the action. GSP did, that may be why he won.

That's what I was thinking too. I hate when fights end up like that. De La Hoya v. Trinidad was the same thing.

PUNISHER

09-12-2006, 03:15 PM

I was thinking that Hughes planned on letting B.J. knock the piss out of him, choke the shit out of him... and then give him a big, bloody kiss like the last time they fought.

I think it will be a much better fight this time around too. There is no doubt that Matt Hughes is one of the best, and B.J. Penn is well known for his tendency to be erratic.
Well one thing is definite. Matt Hughes is consistent, Penn is not.

Jimmy

09-12-2006, 03:19 PM

Well one thing is definite. Matt Hughes is consistent, Penn is not.

Penn is also only getting 4 weeks to train for Hughes.

How about Cro Cop knocking out Vanderlei Silva and Josh Barnett beating Minotauro? That's some motherfuckin' news!

PUNISHER

09-12-2006, 03:22 PM

Penn is also only getting 4 weeks to train for Hughes.

How about Cro Cop knocking out Vanderlei Silva and Josh Barnett beating Minotauro? That's some motherfuckin' news!
Yeah man I missed the Crocop Wand fight and only caught the last few minutes of Nog and fatty too fat fat. Cro cop was in top form, I can't wait to see Crocop vs. Fedor 2. Alexander looked like shit, he was getting schooled until he bombed that dumbass after he taunted him, that was sweet. I was suprised that Arona beat Diabate so easily, Diabate's sprawl is non existant, he's a wicked striker though.

Jimmy

09-12-2006, 03:27 PM

Yeah man I missed the Crocop Wand fight and only caught the last few minutes of Nog and fatty too fat fat. Cro cop was in top form, I can't wait to see Crocop vs. Fedor 2. Alexander looked like shit, he was getting schooled until he bombed that dumbass after he taunted him, that was sweet. I was suprised that Arona beat Diabate so easily, Diabate's sprawl is non existant, he's a wicked striker though.

Cro Cop's wrestling and jiu-jitsu have gotten better by leaps and bounds. The guy is fuckin' amazing. Fedor is still going to beat him down, though.

You can't fight a guy like Arona and not have a sprawl. That's just retarded. You'd better kung-fu fighting, and your kicks had better be fast as lightning or you're going to get taken down and raped.

I'm fucking depressed that Minotauro lost. God damn Josh Barnett!

PUNISHER

09-12-2006, 03:38 PM

Cro Cop's wrestling and jiu-jitsu have gotten better by leaps and bounds. The guy is fuckin' amazing. Fedor is still going to beat him down, though.

You can't fight a guy like Arona and not have a sprawl. That's just retarded. You'd better kung-fu fighting, and your kicks had better be fast as lightning or you're going to get taken down and raped.

I'm fucking depressed that Minotauro lost. God damn Josh Barnett!
So how was that fight, I was amazed by the last few minutes and people said the whole thing was pretty much like that. Do you think Nog should've won?

Jimmy

09-12-2006, 03:45 PM

So how was that fight, I was amazed by the last few minutes and people said the whole thing was pretty much like that. Do you think Nog should've won?

No, I think Mino lost the fight, but it was close. I'd like to see a rematch.

DIYWMD

09-12-2006, 08:50 PM

Vanderlei got his fucking wig split. That was sickening, especially since I really wanted him to win. But I can't complain, Fedor/Crocop 2 is going to be sweet.

bat_girl

09-13-2006, 12:47 AM

No question, Hughes is a tough dude, but I can't stand him and I'd like to watch him squeal like a little girl! :tongue:

LeftWingScum

09-13-2006, 01:19 AM

I agree that GSP got takedown, but he didn't control anything on the ground. He got takedowns... that's it. Penn beat his ass, and got robbed. I like GSP a lot, but he got clowned.

dude you need to re-watch it. you must be thinking of a diffient fight...or just wait until the rematch. all penn and hughes nuthuggers, and gsp haters will be shut down.

LeftWingScum

09-13-2006, 01:21 AM

barnett beat big nog...seriously?

PUNISHER

09-13-2006, 02:12 AM

dude you need to re-watch it. you must be thinking of a diffient fight...or just wait until the rematch. all penn and hughes nuthuggers, and gsp haters will be shut down.
I agree, people pay too much attention to a little bit of blood and some cuts and bruises.
barnett beat big nog...seriously?
Yeah but it was close. I couldn't find it on youtube but here's Silva vs. Cro-cop. The rest they gave Silva was b.s. but I'm sure Cro-cop didn't mind. Sweet finish.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQpChm81jm4

LeftWingScum

09-14-2006, 12:11 AM

I agree, people pay too much attention to a little bit of blood and some cuts and bruises.

Yeah but it was close. I couldn't find it on youtube but here's Silva vs. Cro-cop. The rest they gave Silva was b.s. but I'm sure Cro-cop didn't mind. Sweet finish.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQpChm81jm4

exactly, if you watch it, penn did NOTHING besides landing a fluke punch very early. i'm not saying GSP dominated, but he clearly did more to end the fight, had more control during the fight, and showed more skill.

fightgirrl

09-14-2006, 12:59 AM

Silva vs. Cro-cop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQpChm81jm4

it says it's a private video :frown:

PUNISHER

09-14-2006, 02:15 AM

it says it's a private video :frown:
That sucks, it worked before. I've been seeing a lot of that shit going on at youtube. Maybe they got sued or something.

Jimmy

09-14-2006, 06:54 PM

It's always been good. You can see how great it was in his first TKO title fight against "the monkey" (I forgot the guys real name). He has a wicked sprawl and crossface, always did. Mark is actually a really good grappler. He didn't start out in kickboxing, he started out in Pankration. He just prefers his kickboxing and trains with kickboxers.

This "monkey" you speak of... I think my friend Miguel Torres just fought him. His name is Richard Nancoo. Miguel beat him by TKO in April.

fightgirrl

09-15-2006, 01:31 AM

That sucks, it worked before. I've been seeing a lot of that shit going on at youtube. Maybe they got sued or something.
maybe, I'll try to find another vid of it

PUNISHER

09-15-2006, 04:05 AM

This "monkey" you speak of... I think my friend Miguel Torres just fought him. His name is Richard Nancoo. Miguel beat him by TKO in April.
That's him, he's way to small for 145, they should make a 135 division in N.A. He is a pretty wicked grappler though, or so I've heard.

Jimmy

09-19-2006, 01:47 PM

The fight is this saturday, ladies. Be sure to watch that shit.

PUNISHER

09-19-2006, 01:55 PM

Oh damn, I'm probably gonna miss it. Thank god for vcr's and youtube.

Jimmy

09-19-2006, 02:03 PM

Oh damn, I'm probably gonna miss it. Thank god for vcr's and youtube.

YouTube... hahaha. I bet Dana White fuckin' hates YouTube.

PUNISHER

09-19-2006, 03:23 PM

YouTube... hahaha. I bet Dana White fuckin' hates YouTube.
Yeah, thank god for youtube... fuck Dana White.:biggrin:

fightgirrl

09-19-2006, 07:38 PM

no joke like he needs my money like I need another hole in my heart

Mommys_lil_Chola

09-24-2006, 05:05 AM

This fight was bullshit and I was disappointed.

LARDCORE

09-24-2006, 07:04 PM

DIYWMD

09-24-2006, 10:28 PM

Yeah, Renzo subbed Hughes's coach too. So fuckin take that. Beat Royce we'll fuck up your master booo hooo hooo.

LeftWingScum

10-03-2006, 03:54 PM

dood... that shit was so f'd up... i was bitter... matt hughes is a one trick pony... ok maybe a one and a half trick pony... he's a wrestler that can throw them ok... bj has it all around... i got nothing against hughes... he's the man at what he does... but bj is the man...

bullshit...matt has every aspect of the game down. he is a top notch wrestler, he knows subs very well, and his stand up is above average. BJ's problem is he doesn't have the drive...end of story.

DIYWMD

10-03-2006, 05:29 PM

bullshit...matt has every aspect of the game down. he is a top notch wrestler, he knows subs very well, and his stand up is above average. BJ's problem is he doesn't have the drive...end of story.

I dunno about the standup argument, he may know submission defense but he's not ADCC or NAGA caliber. He's mostly GnP

Jimmy

10-03-2006, 05:43 PM

bullshit...matt has every aspect of the game down. he is a top notch wrestler, he knows subs very well, and his stand up is above average. BJ's problem is he doesn't have the drive...end of story.

Above average standup? You've got to be fucking joking...

LeftWingScum

10-05-2006, 01:19 AM

Above average standup? You've got to be fucking joking...

DIY...i know he's mostly GNP. he's a wrestler after all.

jimmy - he's got above average standup for UFC caliber nowadays. pride, forget about it. tell me one fighter in his weight class in the UFC who has better stand up than him. lindland? sherk? horn? besides GSP of course.

Jimmy

10-05-2006, 03:06 AM

DIY...i know he's mostly GNP. he's a wrestler after all.

jimmy - he's got above average standup for UFC caliber nowadays. pride, forget about it. tell me one fighter in his weight class in the UFC who has better stand up than him. lindland? sherk? horn? besides GSP of course.

B.J. Penn, Nick Diaz, Spencer Fisher, Melvin Guillard, Chris Lytle, Josh Neer, Joe Riggs, Nick Thompson...